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My sons dyslexia

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Hi David, My son is also 10 and I have been asked if I would accept help from an Educational Psychologist to assess him as they think he maybe Dyslexic as he has the reading and writing age of a 6 year old. So I would like to know my rights on education and what they should offer to him as extra curricular. I often wonder if they had had him in school earlier if they would of picked up on it sooner rather than later. He was born 09.09.1994 but because the school year started on 06.09 they did not allow him to go to school until the following year by that time he was 3 days away from being 6 and almost a year older than the rest of the class. Any info would be gratefully appreciated. Regards Jackie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone help me? My son has been diagnosed by an ed psych with dyslexia originally 3 years go and again in july 2004.  He is 10 years old and now in year 6 of his primary school. we feel the school is doing very little to help him and each time we ask what is being done we are told they are going to have a meeting to decide.  By the time they decide what should be done he will be leaving primary school and going to high school! we are exasperated and need to know exactly what measures the school should be putting in place to help and support him. thanks david

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Can anyone help me? My son has been diagnosed by an ed psych with dyslexia originally 3 years go and again in july 2004.  He is 10 years old and now in year 6 of his primary school. we feel the school is doing very little to help him and each time we ask what is being done we are told they are going to have a meeting to decide.  By the time they decide what should be done he will be leaving primary school and going to high school! we are exasperated and need to know exactly what measures the school should be putting in place to help and support him. thanks david

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Can anyone help me? My son has been diagnosed by an ed psych with dyslexia originally 3 years go and again in july 2004.  He is 10 years old and now in year 6 of his primary school. we feel the school is doing very little to help him and each time we ask what is being done we are told they are going to have a meeting to decide.  By the time they decide what should be done he will be leaving primary school and going to high school! we are exasperated and need to know exactly what measures the school should be putting in place to help and support him. thanks david

okay so he has been satmented? he should of had recomdations of the ed psych, things such as coaching in spelling reading, which i had at his age, not being a parent i’m not really up on what schools do now adays, as things may have changed by now though looking at the adault ed i’m doing prob not that much. i do rember that i had a number of tests before they decied what to do, and then on a few other tests every so often. roger

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Where are you in the country ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone help me? My son has been diagnosed by an ed psych with dyslexia originally 3 years go and again in july 2004.  He is 10 years old and now in year 6 of his primary school. we feel the school is doing very little to help him and each time we ask what is being done we are told they are going to have a meeting to decide.  By the time they decide what should be done he will be leaving primary school and going to high school! we are exasperated and need to know exactly what measures the school should be putting in place to help and support him. thanks david

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Hi Jackie, There is a lot of information on www.beingdyslexic.co.uk as to what you should do once your child has been diagnosed with dyslexia. Try the infromation at the top of the page, then ‘Parents & Gaurdians’ Hope that helps

not a bad site you have there sam. the site linked off it confusing words is quite fun and possibly useful, roger

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Hi Jackie, There is a lot of information on www.beingdyslexic.co.uk as to what you should do once your child has been diagnosed with dyslexia. Try the infromation at the top of the page, then ‘Parents & Gaurdians’ Hope that helps – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi David, My son is also 10 and I have been asked if I would accept help from an Educational Psychologist to assess him as they think he maybe Dyslexic as he has the reading and writing age of a 6 year old. So I would like to know my rights on education and what they should offer to him as extra curricular. I often wonder if they had had him in school earlier if they would of picked up on it sooner rather than later. He was born 09.09.1994 but because the school year started on 06.09 they did not allow him to go to school until the following year by that time he was 3 days away from being 6 and almost a year older than the rest of the class. Any info would be gratefully appreciated. Regards Jackie Can anyone help me? My son has been diagnosed by an ed psych with dyslexia originally 3 years go and again in july 2004.  He is 10 years old and now in year 6 of his primary school. we feel the school is doing very little to help him and each time we ask what is being done we are told they are going to have a meeting to decide.  By the time they decide what should be done he will be leaving primary school and going to high school! we are exasperated and need to know exactly what measures the school should be putting in place to help and support him. thanks david

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Can anyone help me? My son has been diagnosed by an ed psych with dyslexia originally 3 years go and again in july 2004.  He is 10 years old and now in year 6 of his primary school. we feel the school is doing very little to help him and each time we ask what is being done we are told they are going to have a meeting to decide.  By the time they decide what should be done he will be leaving primary school and going to high school! we are exasperated and need to know exactly what measures the school should be putting in place to help and support him. thanks david

One of my kids was diagnosed just before the summer break. That would be about May or June. He had a few tests, and we had a few interviews. Since he returned to school in September, he has been straight into a special lesson each day, in addition to extra reading that the school had implimented for him about year 3. He has an appointment with the OT. It all happened very quickly for him. One point I should add is that we made a fuss about the data protection act. The school couldn’t discuss the lads problem with the OT who couldn’t discuss it with the special reading teacher, who couldn’t discuss it with the school psychologist. So we made it clear that we had no objection to these people sharing information about our son. It may have help speed things up and it could have been the school who have a very good record of spotting and getting help for pupils with special needs. Oh ….. we are in Northern Ireland max.it

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dyslexia does hold you back

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Sorry this came so late but I just found this group page  Any way I had the same encounter as you with the ignorant teacher I signup for and art and design class at the local college I was 22 at the time and I also informed the teacher about my dyslexia she now nothing about dyslexia but I thoat I wood be open to any of her questions and may be it wood you no teach the teacher but I was sadly mistaking it turns out she couldn’t be bothered with the mentally handicap as she pout it but I mite have a problem with reading and writing and most of all memory but I wood not call my self mentally handicaps you see sins I was a child I was good at art and hen I am drawing or painting I go in to my on little world I imagine with your music the same thing happens so I when to this class hoping to improve my talents but in the class the art was not the problem it was the writing part you needed writing work to back up your art work and as you all now my writing is not perfect but I really triad so I did all the art first and tried to do the writing work after she did not like that so she said catch  up are maybe you are not cut out  for this class but I triad to fro a death ear and ignore that comment but I could not do it you see at that point a self confidents was low and it dus not help when the teacher telling you that she has not time for people like me and at one point it got to much she never mad it easy for me and I give up hath way fro the course and now I am 23 I still now I gave up a moment of a life time but they are people out there fear what they don’t under stand and i pity them i have a lot of talent in me it is a shaem thay don’t see that.

    First off, it’s insulting that she referred to dyslexia as a mental handicap. Secondly, it doesn’t matter whether or not she has the time. Under the ADA and as a requirement for state and federal funding she is required to make the time. It’s part of her job. At the very least she should’ve directed you to the disabilities office where they would’ve found ways to help you compensate for dyslexia. And they’re usually willing to do anything from just reviewing your papers for grammer all the way to sitting in class and taking your notes for you and writing your papers as you dictate. And it isn’t a privelage to go to a public college. You’re paying money to go there. That entitles you to some things. Your instructers are being paid to work there, it’s their privelage.     If I were you, I’d go and bitch to the dean about what happens. You’ll give the school another reason not to rehire this teacher for the next semester, and you should be able to get your tuition payment refunded too. It might be a little bit too late for that now, but it doesn’t hurt to try. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PS. sorry about spelling I pout fro spell checker a couple of time I hope I got that spelling fixed.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –                hi all  dyslexia does hold you back why well i statred a course in sound and audio at a collage near me in london .. when i started i told them about my dyslexia thought it was only best, started they course 3 weeks in to they course i told my teacher about my dyslexia just so he thought i was trying … rather than him saying ok i take on bored wot u say about your dyslexia …i got they reply well its probley best you dont do this course …i thought about it didnt really like wot he just said to me .thas just one instance of something like that happning to me … i read in a local dyslexia group email that i get that 80% of young offenders have dyslexia   thas shocking,  when i look at it really if you cant fill they form to get they job or what ever your going for in they first place you arent going to be going very far ….. i think when it comes to jobs and that dyslexia will hold u back …… maybe depending how  bad ur dyslexia is . theres also still they great social  stigma about it … in my experance its been more bad than good …… i just hope one day that nuro scince will come up with something that cures it out … most of they pepole i have met with dyslexia …have been very long term unenployed ….they like me think wot good is this dysleixa  when u cant do wot most other people can do ie mathes english all that jass ..etc   ..anyhow that my bit on why dyslexia holds you back .. later buy for now   ambient www.ambientboy.co.uk

i don’t know your exact details but from what you’ve said and looking at your website you have a love of music, i don’t know what areas you would find diffucult as disexica is such a broad church, but with motivation you can over come hurdles, it might be diffuicult but not impossible. the chances are very high that the teacher is not a expert in dyslexica, so i would take his advice and put it where it desirves to go ;) the problem with dyslexica is one its just a catch all fraze and secondly people even people who should do often don’t attually have any apreationation of what it means. i susgest you take a vistit to the suport staff at the college and get help, if you haven’t been stamented that needs to be done, this is also so the tutors have to offically take into considration spelling grammer etc, also if you don’t have a laptop i’ve found they seem quite keen on giving them out lol! roger and out — usr is wodger

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               hi all  dyslexia does hold you back why well i statred a course in sound and audio at a collage near me in london .. when i started i told them about my dyslexia thought it was only best, started they course 3 weeks in to they course i told my teacher about my dyslexia just so he thought i was trying … rather than him saying ok i take on bored wot u say about your dyslexia …i got they reply well its probley best you dont do this course …i thought about it didnt really like wot he just said to me .thas just one instance of something like that happning to me … i read in a local dyslexia group email that i get that 80% of young offenders have dyslexia   thas shocking,  when i look at it really if you cant fill they form to get they job or what ever your going for in they first place you arent going to be going very far ….. i think when it comes to jobs and that dyslexia will hold u back …… maybe depending how  bad ur dyslexia is . theres also still they great social  stigma about it … in my experance its been more bad than good …… i just hope one day that nuro scince will come up with something that cures it out … most of they pepole i have met with dyslexia …have been very long term unenployed ….they like me think wot good is this dysleixa  when u cant do wot most other people can do ie mathes english all that jass ..etc   ..anyhow that my bit on why dyslexia holds you back .. later buy for now   ambient www.ambientboy.co.uk

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Hi Sorry this came so late but I just found this group page  Any way I had the same encounter as you with the ignorant teacher I signup for and art and design class at the local college I was 22 at the time and I also informed the teacher about my dyslexia she now nothing about dyslexia but I thoat I wood be open to any of her questions and may be it wood you no teach the teacher but I was sadly mistaking it turns out she couldn’t be bothered with the mentally handicap as she pout it but I mite have a problem with reading and writing and most of all memory but I wood not call my self mentally handicaps you see sins I was a child I was good at art and hen I am drawing or painting I go in to my on little world I imagine with your music the same thing happens so I when to this class hoping to improve my talents but in the class the art was not the problem it was the writing part you needed writing work to back up your art work and as you all now my writing is not perfect but I really triad so I did all the art first and tried to do the writing work after she did not like that so she said catch  up are maybe you are not cut out  for this class but I triad to fro a death ear and ignore that comment but I could not do it you see at that point a self confidents was low and it dus not help when the teacher telling you that she has not time for people like me and at one point it got to much she never mad it easy for me and I give up hath way fro the course and now I am 23 I still now I gave up a moment of a life time but they are people out there fear what they don’t under stand and i pity them i have a lot of talent in me it is a shaem thay don’t see that. PS. sorry about spelling I pout fro spell checker a couple of time I hope I got that spelling fixed.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m really sorry to hear about the ruff time you’ve had dealing with people concerning your dyslexia.  That teacher was very ignorant.  Not enough people know and understand what dyslexia is all about.  You may have trouble with the language part of academics but you are probably very gifted in other areas.  Sound and audio sounds like a very good field for someone with dyslexia.  I really hope that you didn’t drop the course and that you found some help to get through the ruff spots.  You can’t let ignorance stand in your way or the dyslexia will hold you back.  It all comes down to you believing in yourself!  You may have to fight harder but you know what they say, "what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger".  Aren’t you worth it? My husband and son have dyslexia.  My husband went through public school (dropped out in grade 8) and ended up working in a textile factory.  He had a low opinion of himself also.  I saw all of the special gifts he had inside and encouraged him to follow his dream.  His passion was heavy machinery. He went to a truckers school (one of the best in the world), he didn’t let anyone tell him that he wasn’t able or maybe he shouldn’t be there, let them put up with all of the spelling mistakes (he wasn’t there for spelling but to learn how to drive a rig) and passed with the highest grades of the class.  He’s now driving a rig and transporting heavy machinery.  He makes a good salary and by doing all of this, his self esteem is way up there. Life is all a choice.  Make the right one.  Yes, a lot of dyslexics are delinquents or in jail.  That’s the easy way out.  It’s not the dyslexia holding them back.  There are a lot of very good jobs out there where dyslexics can excel.  Look at Bill Gates from Microsoft.  He has dyslexia and it didn’t stop him.   It didn’t stop my husband, my brother, and it won’t stop my son.  Geez, he’s 7 years old and can already drive most of the heavy machinery and trucks very well (a lot better than me).  He has the same special gift as his father.  An excellent eye hand coordination.  He may not become a poet, lawyer or professor in a university but he could become a trucker, teacher, fireman, policeman, construction, pilot and the list goes on.

* Hi! The new mayor of San Francisco, Gavin Newsome, is dyslexic.  He is a terrific guy who has surprised many of us.  He has received nothing but praise from both his supporters and those who supported his opponent in the last election. He should stand as a great example for all dyslexic people. earle * —               __            __/_           /_/_/           /_/_     earle              /_/     jones

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Hi Neil :-) When I was at school, I always wanted to work with computers and electronics. Always pulling things apart to see how they work, sometimes to see if I could make them myself :-) I was always in the remedial classes all through school, and was told one that if I wanted to do electronics and computers that I would need to know physics and math’s. Because I was in the remedial class they said it will be no point in me trying to do those subjects as I don’t have the math’s skills. For me being in being in the remedial classes was like someone that spoke English living with people that spoke other languages and the teachers and the world were speaking broken English. I knew deep down I did not belong to that group, but found it very hard fitting into the world. I have to find my own route to do the things that I wanted to do. I think that God has blessed me with a strong will :-) ) So I never gave up my quest to do what I wanted to do, my dermas as a child :-) To day I work for AT&T as a network Technician, working with computers and network equipment. I use to deal with multinationals and their data networks across the world, I am now based on one of our customers site doing all of their UK and world wide links support. What am I saying, if you have a dream, don’t let anyone kill that dream or stop you, examine all avenues that are available to you to peruse that dream. Maybe you may not be able to live your dream, but think of all the things that you will learn and pickup along the way :-) Hope this helps someone :-) Regards Leslie…UK:-) PS. Message to parents, don’t give up on your son and daughter just because they are not doing things the way they you think that they should be doing it. Or the way that other kids are doing it, help they to find the way that is best for them. That the feel comfortable and relaxed with :-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Sorry this came so late but I just found this group page  Any way I had the same encounter as you with the ignorant teacher I signup for and art and design class at the local college I was 22 at the time and I also informed the teacher about my dyslexia she now nothing about dyslexia but I thoat I wood be open to any of her questions and may be it wood you no teach the teacher but I was sadly mistaking it turns out she couldn’t be bothered with the mentally handicap as she pout it but I mite have a problem with reading and writing and most of all memory but I wood not call my self mentally handicaps you see sins I was a child I was good at art and hen I am drawing or painting I go in to my on little world I imagine with your music the same thing happens so I when to this class hoping to improve my talents but in the class the art was not the problem it was the writing part you needed writing work to back up your art work and as you all now my writing is not perfect but I really triad so I did all the art first and tried to do the writing work after she did not like that so she said catch  up are maybe you are not cut out  for this class but I triad to fro a death ear and ignore that comment but I could not do it you see at that point a self confidents was low and it dus not help when the teacher telling you that she has not time for people like me and at one point it got to much she never mad it easy for me and I give up hath way fro the course and now I am 23 I still now I gave up a moment of a life time but they are people out there fear what they don’t under stand and i pity them i have a lot of talent in me it is a shaem thay don’t see that. PS. sorry about spelling I pout fro spell checker a couple of time I hope I got that spelling fixed.

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I’m really sorry to hear about the ruff time you’ve had dealing with people concerning your dyslexia.  That teacher was very ignorant.  Not enough people know and understand what dyslexia is all about.  You may have trouble with the language part of academics but you are probably very gifted in other areas.  Sound and audio sounds like a very good field for someone with dyslexia.  I really hope that you didn’t drop the course and that you found some help to get through the ruff spots.  You can’t let ignorance stand in your way or the dyslexia will hold you back.  It all comes down to you believing in yourself!  You may have to fight harder but you know what they say, "what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger".  Aren’t you worth it? My husband and son have dyslexia.  My husband went through public school (dropped out in grade 8) and ended up working in a textile factory.  He had a low opinion of himself also.  I saw all of the special gifts he had inside and encouraged him to follow his dream.  His passion was heavy machinery. He went to a truckers school (one of the best in the world), he didn’t let anyone tell him that he wasn’t able or maybe he shouldn’t be there, let them put up with all of the spelling mistakes (he wasn’t there for spelling but to learn how to drive a rig) and passed with the highest grades of the class.  He’s now driving a rig and transporting heavy machinery.  He makes a good salary and by doing all of this, his self esteem is way up there. Life is all a choice.  Make the right one.  Yes, a lot of dyslexics are delinquents or in jail.  That’s the easy way out.  It’s not the dyslexia holding them back.  There are a lot of very good jobs out there where dyslexics can excel.  Look at Bill Gates from Microsoft.  He has dyslexia and it didn’t stop him.   It didn’t stop my husband, my brother, and it won’t stop my son.  Geez, he’s 7 years old and can already drive most of the heavy machinery and trucks very well (a lot better than me).  He has the same special gift as his father.  An excellent eye hand coordination.  He may not become a poet, lawyer or professor in a university but he could become a trucker, teacher, fireman, policeman, construction, pilot and the list goes on.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –                hi all  dyslexia does hold you back why well i statred a course in sound and audio at a collage near me in london .. when i started i told them about my dyslexia thought it was only best, started they course 3 weeks in to they course i told my teacher about my dyslexia just so he thought i was trying … rather than him saying ok i take on bored wot u say about your dyslexia …i got they reply well its probley best you dont do this course …i thought about it didnt really like wot he just said to me .thas just one instance of something like that happning to me … i read in a local dyslexia group email that i get that 80% of young offenders have dyslexia   thas shocking,  when i look at it really if you cant fill they form to get they job or what ever your going for in they first place you arent going to be going very far ….. i think when it comes to jobs and that dyslexia will hold u back …… maybe depending how  bad ur dyslexia is . theres also still they great social  stigma about it … in my experance its been more bad than good …… i just hope one day that nuro scince will come up with something that cures it out … most of they pepole i have met with dyslexia …have been very long term unenployed ….they like me think wot good is this dysleixa  when u cant do wot most other people can do ie mathes english all that jass ..etc   ..anyhow that my bit on why dyslexia holds you back .. later buy for now   ambient www.ambientboy.co.uk

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is it dyslexia or ADD (my reading and calculateing problems and short term memory problems and problems with attention)

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Since childhood I am haveing great difficulties reading. Reading is slow and really annoying. (sometimes I wander away without reading anything) I have difficulty interpreting stuff I read. This includes really difficult, but also very simple texts. Reading a newspaper article is very difficult without wandering away. Listening to people talking is also difficult without wandering away. I think this is caused by ADD. That is why I take low doses of stimulant meds. But can these problems be attribuated to dyslexia?

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Since childhood I am haveing great difficulties reading. Reading is slow and really annoying. (sometimes I wander away without reading anything) I have difficulty interpreting stuff I read. This includes really difficult, but also very simple texts. Reading a newspaper article is very difficult without wandering away. Listening to people talking is also difficult without wandering away. I think this is caused by ADD. That is why I take low doses of stimulant meds. But can these problems be attribuated to dyslexia?

Short answer: yes. If something is nearly impossible for you, you will naturally avoid it – sometimes by tuning out. Proper psychoeducational testing should be able to tell the difference. It’s possible to have both, of course. -Janna — Autistic Spectrum Code v.1.0 AC! d- s+: a- c+ p+ t f S+ !p e+++++ h+++ r-++ n+ i P+++ m-++ M+++++ Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." – Albert Camus

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Ron Davis "The Gift of Dyslexia"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.dyslexia.com/bookstore/ thats the first link when googled. i sugest you have a further look as see if any one sells it in uk, though the above will ship. roger Thanks, but oh my god, its $98 with postage to the UK. The postage costs more than the item itself. I went to Blackwells yesterday, and gave them the ISBN from Amazon.com (amazon.co.uk don’t sell the CD audiobook). They said they can’t get it. I would pay to download the 4 CDs as MP3s – it’s just the postage charges are horrendous.

$98? what are they sending it in a lead box? i’d have another look as thats extorinate shipping charges. roger

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Hi – I have bought this book and really want to read it. It is in large print. Unfortunately, my reading is very slow and inaccurate. Can I buy this book an an MP3 file? Thanks in advance

SO WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET THIS BOOK ON CD. I think it is an excellent book.

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Why don’t you contact your fellow scammers at the Davis fraud organization. Hi – I have bought this book and really want to read it. It is in large print. Unfortunately, my reading is very slow and inaccurate. Can I buy this book an an MP3 file? Thanks in advance

– "…in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.dyslexia.com/bookstore/ thats the first link when googled. i sugest you have a further look as see if any one sells it in uk, though the above will ship. roger Thanks, but oh my god, its $98 with postage to the UK. The postage costs more than the item itself. I went to Blackwells yesterday, and gave them the ISBN from Amazon.com (amazon.co.uk don’t sell the CD audiobook). They said they can’t get it. I would pay to download the 4 CDs as MP3s – it’s just the postage charges are horrendous. $98? what are they sending it in a lead box? i’d have another look as thats extorinate shipping charges. roger

I can get it from Davistraining.co.uk for about

FOUR MORE YEARS

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"ci+" <c…@ciNukeSpam.com> pulled the needle out his vein long enough to rant thusly: news:Xns9599D236329Fci@64.85.239.19: > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> in > news:2usa93F2e33p8U1@uni-berlin.de: >> Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS. > conservaitves prefer to shoot up elementary schools wiht semi-auto.. > or hijack jetliners of passengers and fly them into tall buildings..

It’s a little thing we have called "values", you leftist-full-of-hate. — "And guys, if you exploit a girl, it will come back to get you. That’s called ‘karma.’ " – Bill O’Reilly, "The O’Reilly Factor for Kids" Like Mr. Bush, these patriarchal [Catholic] bishops want to turn back the clock to the 50’s. They don’t want separation of church and state – except in Iraq. –Maureen Dowd. Paul! Paul! Help me, Paul! Please Paul, help me! Paul! –Track of the Moonbeast.

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On 4 Nov 2004 10:38:30 -0800, Steve Ruelle said: > First of all, it was a very close call, and just because Bush won the > election does not mean that it is a representative win – only 51% of > those who voted have his support.

a tiny majority, yes, but considering it’s the first time a president has been elected with a majority since bush senior, quite a significant one. > I may get 51% for my final Physics grade and it certainly means I’ve > passed the course.  But a far more convincing mark of actual > competence would be 85% or even 95%.  Using this analogy, Bush barely > got by, even if the principles of democracy and majority rule show > that he won fairly.  This should be kept in mind as the upcoming > months and years go by.

apples and oranges – elections aren’t exams. a close elections is a sign of a healthy democracy – which is what americans are interested in these days, isn’t it? as far as i’m aware, the last time someone received 95% of the vote he was labelled a dictator and invaded. > Furthermore, although the election had a record turnout, there were > still only 60% of eligible voters who went to the polls!  Just 60%!!!! >  And people are gawking at how good the turnout was!  Frustrations > with long lines maybe?  Or is that just an excuse for apathy, as the > data I’m about to post show that the turnout rate for young voters > between the ages of 15-24 was only 10%.  Shocking indeed. So yes, > great turnout, but it could have been way better, especially for those > Democrat-leaning young people who didn’t vote because of apathy.

i agree that the youth turnout was disgracefully low, but i don’t think 15, 16 and 17 year olds are allowed to vote yet! i assume they’re not being included in the 90%, but it’s still poor form to include them in the demographic – or is it just a typo?

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message <news:2usa93F2e33p8U1@uni-berlin.de>… > "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" <zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> > wrote in message news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… > > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein long > > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: > >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. > > Time to riot in the streets. > Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? > Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS.

DF, you’re no more qualified to comment on the mood/situation in the US than us Americans are to comment on the same in AUS. We can read a lot, to be sure, but when you spend time around people who think that Bush talks to God, or people who voted for him solely on abortion rights or gun control while being ignorant of his failures, then you’ll truly understand the divide here between red and blue. KC, who doesn’t believe in God, but thanks god that he lives in a blue county in a blue state.

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  If he lives that long..:)

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> KC, who doesn’t believe in God, but thanks god that he lives in a blue > county in a blue state.

I don’t believe in God, but I believe with most Christian values, especially on things like homosexuality, waiting for marriage, and abortion.

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> First of all, it was a very close call, and just because Bush won the > election does not mean that it is a representative win – only 51% of > those who voted have his support.

Considering more people voted for him than any other prez in US history and he’s the first prez to get over 50% of the popular vote in 16 years or something, I think that’s pretty "representative".

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> in news:2usa93F2e33p8U1@uni-berlin.de: > Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS.

conservaitves prefer to shoot up elementary schools wiht semi-auto.. or hijack jetliners of passengers and fly them into tall buildings.. — http://sfgate.com/c/pictures/2004/10/08/eb_ethiopia_1.jpg Meti Birabiro http://images.google.com/images?q=Melissa%20Auf%20Der%20Maur%20&hl=en… http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2004/03/12/a_talent_with_many… http://bride.ru/ph/htcgi/ladies/214/214517PP1.html http://bride.ru/ph/phcgi/ladies/214/214517P2.jpg http://www.readio.com/nywindowgallery/celebrities/images/pictures-hei… http://www.ipecacaperitif.com/

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audrey in velvet <lindauermadn…@somewhere.com> wrote in news:BDAF191A.2F89%lindauermadness@somewhere.com: > and i had the impression from watching john wayne movies that rednecks > were cowboys with southern accents who gave funny one liners and > always got the bad guy and the pretty damsel in distress in the end.

If you really want to get a true picture of a typical redneck, watch Deliverance. -phy (you shore do got a purty smile)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message <news:2uu5bhF2eh0ciU1@uni-berlin.de>… > "Left Hand of Empire" <jack_foreig…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1e1aa574.0411031418.20d60ce9@posting.google.com… > > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message > > <news:2usa93F2e33p8U1@uni-berlin.de>… > >> "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" > >> <zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> > >> wrote in message news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… > >> > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein > >> > long > >> > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: > >> >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. > >> > Time to riot in the streets. > >> Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? > >> Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS. > > WTF, did you forget those rednecks storming Florida? > > I’m against Bush, but I ain’t *for* Kerry neither — all those blacks > > and hispanics and gays and feminists are just as bad IMHO as the > > Christians and Jews and fat cats and rednecks. > The Jews should be exterminated once and for all. > Heil Hitler

Don’t be silly.  =)

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If we could just stop all this hoarsing around and actually think for a second, there may be some explanations as to why this dimwit got elected for another term. First of all, it was a very close call, and just because Bush won the election does not mean that it is a representative win – only 51% of those who voted have his support. I may get 51% for my final Physics grade and it certainly means I’ve passed the course.  But a far more convincing mark of actual competence would be 85% or even 95%.  Using this analogy, Bush barely got by, even if the principles of democracy and majority rule show that he won fairly.  This should be kept in mind as the upcoming months and years go by. Furthermore, although the election had a record turnout, there were still only 60% of eligible voters who went to the polls!  Just 60%!!!!  And people are gawking at how good the turnout was!  Frustrations with long lines maybe?  Or is that just an excuse for apathy, as the data I’m about to post show that the turnout rate for young voters between the ages of 15-24 was only 10%.  Shocking indeed. So yes, great turnout, but it could have been way better, especially for those Democrat-leaning young people who didn’t vote because of apathy. Using the Physics analogy again, this is like a professor who assigns optional homework assignments that, if I complete them, can boost my grade.  I may say, oh who gives a fluff, they don’t count, how about a measly 10%?  My deskmate may be eager but he only does 60%, meanwhile the whole class is in awe that he actually completed that much.  If anyone ever did 100% of the homework, they’d say it was impossible. Anyway, here are some exit poll data that suggest what nudged Bush over the ‘passing mark’ to barely scrape by: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6399341/ Most interesting are the great majority of Blacks who voted against this nut (repeat of Reagan elections?) as are the suburban and rural dwellers who chose Bush over Kerry.  Looking at the map, you can see this is evident as Bush took the clear majority of rural states and those with low population densities. Meanwhile, look at the states with high population densities and with educated citizens in urban areas.  Who did they vote for?  Analyze the data yourself. Finally, Bush wouldn’t be in office if it weren’t for the core block of religous right voters, that, I indicated in another post, are making confidence and power their own god. Steve

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de… > Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck.

I think we’ve identified part of your relationship problems right here.

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"Left Hand of Empire" <jack_foreig…@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1e1aa574.0411031418.20d60ce9@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message > <news:2usa93F2e33p8U1@uni-berlin.de>… >> "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" >> <zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> >> wrote in message news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… >> > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein >> > long >> > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: >> >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. >> > Time to riot in the streets. >> Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? >> Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS. > WTF, did you forget those rednecks storming Florida? > I’m against Bush, but I ain’t *for* Kerry neither — all those blacks > and hispanics and gays and feminists are just as bad IMHO as the > Christians and Jews and fat cats and rednecks.

The Jews should be exterminated once and for all. Heil Hitler

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message <news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de>…

[...] > — > "If he could meet a woman who would look at him with friendly eyes instead > of frightened ones

Or disinterested, contemptuous, unimpressed, etc. > he might begin to see himself not as a monster but as a man." > — Sir Frederick Treves

I like this quote.

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Bush is the lesser of two evils. thank god for red necks.

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On 3/11/04 11:02 pm, in article 299b384ccbfb752e44399277f9759…@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com, "Kitz_murdered_our_gallery" <kitz_lost_our_gall…@yahoo.com> wrote: > Bush is the lesser of two evils. thank god for red necks.

hmmm…so i assume a redneck is a privileged *billionaire* who barely got away with c’s at an ivy league college his father donated loads of money to then suddenly got thrown into the position of a figurehead for the republican party cos he wasnt sure what he wanted to do with his life and decided like his brother and father to become some sort of professional politician to please the perfectionist father who handpicked all his advisors to carry on the family honor while he took speech lessons and attempted to overcome his dyslexia by reading teleprompters in public debates… and i had the impression from watching john wayne movies that rednecks were cowboys with southern accents who gave funny one liners and always got the bad guy and the pretty damsel in distress in the end. personally speaking though i much rather watch cutesy romantic movies with freddy prinze jr but i wonder how that will ever change americas new political state? audrey *note…most americans are nowhere near as rich as the bush and kerry families

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message <news:2usa93F2e33p8U1@uni-berlin.de>… > "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" <zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> > wrote in message news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… > > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein long > > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: > >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. > > Time to riot in the streets. > Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? > Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS.

WTF, did you forget those rednecks storming Florida? I’m against Bush, but I ain’t *for* Kerry neither — all those blacks and hispanics and gays and feminists are just as bad IMHO as the Christians and Jews and fat cats and rednecks. I know, I’m lonely.  =)

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Darkfalz wrote: > "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent"

<zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> > wrote in message

news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… > > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein long > > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: > >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. > > Time to riot in the streets. > Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? > Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS.

That’s funny!

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stry…@hotmail.com pulled the needle out his vein long enough to rant thusly: news:1099500370.047056.162220@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Darkfalz wrote: >> "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" > <zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> >> wrote in message > news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… >> > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his > vein long >> > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: >> >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. >> > Time to riot in the streets. >> Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? >> Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS. > That’s funny!

And he thought of it all on his own.  Give that barking seal a sardine. — "And guys, if you exploit a girl, it will come back to get you. That’s called ‘karma.’ " – Bill O’Reilly, "The O’Reilly Factor for Kids" Like Mr. Bush, these patriarchal [Catholic] bishops want to turn back the clock to the 50’s. They don’t want separation of church and state – except in Iraq. –Maureen Dowd. Paul! Paul! Help me, Paul! Please Paul, help me! Paul! –Track of the Moonbeast.

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"Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" <zombiefreaksfromhellbo…@bushwhacked.org> wrote in message news:Xns9596355C86C4Bfkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein long > enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: >> Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. > Time to riot in the streets.

Funny how democrats are always the ones protesting and rioting? Why don’t Republicans do it? Oh that’s right, they have JOBS.

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Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck. — "If he could meet a woman who would look at him with friendly eyes instead of frightened ones he might begin to see himself not as a monster but as a man." — Sir Frederick Treves

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> pulled the needle out his vein long enough to rant thusly: news:2us07tF2drjlfU1@uni-berlin.de: > Take that Kerry you horse faced feminist fuck.

Time to riot in the streets.

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dyslexic looking for a career/job.

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"cousezy25" <cousez…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:2a8528c74b0e4185f08502685fe0673c@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… > hi my name is Chris. I am a severe dyslexic I have extreme difficulty with

reading and writing tasks. Even though there is a great deal of assistive technology available I am still finding it very difficult to find a job that suits me well. I am currently live in Vermont and would be potentially willing to relocate to a new job/career. I have a Triple major in Economics, Political Science and Political Affairs Minors in Business, Speech Communications, and Philosophy. What are some suggestions as to jobs I may be qualified and capable of doing?     how about a ski instructor,, no reading or writing required,, or a landscaper,,, try a carreer that does not involve using only mental abilities,, bobD ps i am looking for the opposite,, a job where i can be the CEO of huge corporation,,, or stock analyst,,, or even politics,,, jobs where you just sit around drink coffee,, get subordinates to do all the work,, go to lunch,, sign some documents,, make 7 figure salary with multi million dollar severance package,, limo driver takes you everywhere, your only care is whether the laundry idiots starch your dress shirts properly this time.

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Jim Carter <spam.f…@softhome.net> wrote in news:nrq020tmks64u7kgabjq12r9tub4b8cs0j@4ax.com: > On Tue,  3 Feb 2004 21:13:21 -0600, "cousezy25" > <cousez…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: >>What are some suggestions as to jobs I may be qualified and capable of >>doing? > Was it your intention to post this message in the Multiple Sclerosis > newsgroup? We are not related to Microsoft, in spite of the > similarities.

That’s right. One leaves you disabled unable to do the simplest tasks. The other is a disease. Fred.

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"Fred" <n…@none.none> wrote in message

news:2wgUb.28969$P17.12136@fed1read03… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jim Carter <spam.f…@softhome.net> wrote in > news:nrq020tmks64u7kgabjq12r9tub4b8cs0j@4ax.com: > > On Tue,  3 Feb 2004 21:13:21 -0600, "cousezy25" > > <cousez…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: > >>What are some suggestions as to jobs I may be qualified and capable of > >>doing? > > Was it your intention to post this message in the Multiple Sclerosis > > newsgroup? We are not related to Microsoft, in spite of the > > similarities. > That’s right. One leaves you disabled unable to do the simplest tasks. The > other is a disease. > Fred.

 awesome comparison,,, very funny too here’s one,,know the difference between bigfoot/sasquatch and a slobbovian woman??? one is over 7 foot tall,, smells really raunchy and is is covered in hairy matts,, has huge maasive feet, grunts instead of speaks,, eats grubs and bugs,, the other is a mystical beast thought to inhabit the pacific northwest region,, never proven to exist. stands over 8 foot talll with huger feet than a slobbovian woman. bobD

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hi my name is Chris. I am a severe dyslexic I have extreme difficulty with reading and writing tasks. Even though there is a great deal of assistive technology available I am still finding it very difficult to find a job that suits me well. I am currently live in Vermont and would be potentially willing to relocate to a new job/career. I have a Triple major in Economics, Political Science and Political Affairs Minors in Business, Speech Communications, and Philosophy. What are some suggestions as to jobs I may be qualified and capable of doing?

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On Tue,  3 Feb 2004 21:13:21 -0600, "cousezy25" <cousez…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: >What are some suggestions as to jobs I may be qualified and capable of doing?

Was it your intention to post this message in the Multiple Sclerosis newsgroup? We are not related to Microsoft, in spite of the similarities.  __ *

Can dyslexics ever get it right?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you think it’s possible to overcome your childhood dyslexia to such a degree, that you wonder whether it’s easier to fall back to your old ways? 25 years ago I was recommended for "the special school" before a radical teacher (for the time) objected on the grounds that I was obviously dyslexic.  20 years ago, despite acceptance from most teachers, the other kids treated me as the dumb kid.  I couldn’t understand the structure of words, never mind sentences – or even the *need* for paragraphs.  15 years ago, they started to accept me. Due to the sheer patience of a special needs teacher, we found a regime that was good for me, and I overcame a lot of spelling and grammar problems through sheer practice and memory improvement techniques.  10 years ago, it seemed I’d improved so much that *some* fellow University students would sneer at the extra time I was given to do work (and for exams).  My major stumbling block during and since University has been speed.  My writing is rarely accurate when first written or typed.  I generally have to go over it several times afterwards, to make it acceptable for viewing.

i find that a franklyn spelling machine works well much better than spell checkers, but as its a personal thing got to find what works with you. Despite such improvement, my grammar is still flawed and I suffer from hard-wired, almost instinctive relapses.  The most prevalent problems being mirrored letters and misused apostrophes. Most often, I know that dog is *D*og. But sometimes, I’ll type bog…which, to my mind, still reads *D*og (in my head), even though it’s written as bog.  (Does that even make sense!)  And so, my grammar and spelling is still full of little anomalies.

yes mine can range from okay to praticaly unreadable, depending on who and where but in friends emails chat etc it doesn’t matter they have learnt to decode if its a bad day. As a consequence, many debates I partake in, are sabotaged by Usenet pedants. I end up feeling driven out, despite passionately wanting to take part.  Sometimes I get annoyed and say "I didn’t think that was too bad for a dyslexic!"  And today I got accused of not being dyslexic, before being lectured on what is expected of me as a dyslexic.  It just makes me wonder what it was all for sometimes.  Why I try so hard, even today, forcing myself to read prolifically despite word-blindness, just to make correct spelling *instinctive* (I remember pictures of words, rather than spelling if that makes sense).  And to think I use Usenet as another aid. Forcing myself to write on a daily basis, because again, the continual exercise keeps my little problem in check.

mmm yes there are some price (incert explitive of choice) out there by letured by whom? Usenet posters? …well almost anyway.  I guess we just have to strive to improve, to meet the perfection people expect of us.  Sorry so long.  It just depresses me. It seemed a good place to let it all out.

"perfection" that i think is the point ie sometimes good enought is better there is a ratio between effort and reward. no one can be perfect and if dyselxic you will not be cured, you might manage it very well but you still are what you are? is that a bad thing? roger

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Do you think it’s possible to overcome your childhood dyslexia to such a degree, that you wonder whether it’s easier to fall back to your old ways? 25 years ago I was recommended for "the special school" before a radical teacher (for the time) objected on the grounds that I was obviously dyslexic.  20 years ago, despite acceptance from most teachers, the other kids treated me as the dumb kid.  I couldn’t understand the structure of words, never mind sentences – or even the *need* for paragraphs.  15 years ago, they started to accept me. Due to the sheer patience of a special needs teacher, we found a regime that was good for me, and I overcame a lot of spelling and grammar problems through sheer practice and memory improvement techniques.  10 years ago, it seemed I’d improved so much that *some* fellow University students would sneer at the extra time I was given to do work (and for exams).  My major stumbling block during and since University has been speed.  My writing is rarely accurate when first written or typed.  I generally have to go over it several times afterwards, to make it acceptable for viewing. Despite such improvement, my grammar is still flawed and I suffer from hard-wired, almost instinctive relapses.  The most prevalent problems being mirrored letters and misused apostrophes. Most often, I know that dog is *D*og. But sometimes, I’ll type bog…which, to my mind, still reads *D*og (in my head), even though it’s written as bog.  (Does that even make sense!)  And so, my grammar and spelling is still full of little anomalies. As a consequence, many debates I partake in, are sabotaged by Usenet pedants. I end up feeling driven out, despite passionately wanting to take part.  Sometimes I get annoyed and say "I didn’t think that was too bad for a dyslexic!"  And today I got accused of not being dyslexic, before being lectured on what is expected of me as a dyslexic.  It just makes me wonder what it was all for sometimes.  Why I try so hard, even today, forcing myself to read prolifically despite word-blindness, just to make correct spelling *instinctive* (I remember pictures of words, rather than spelling if that makes sense).  And to think I use Usenet as another aid. Forcing myself to write on a daily basis, because again, the continual exercise keeps my little problem in check. …well almost anyway.  I guess we just have to strive to improve, to meet the perfection people expect of us.  Sorry so long.  It just depresses me. It seemed a good place to let it all out. — Antoine Blanche Et in Arcadia Ego

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And to think I use Usenet as another aid. Forcing myself to write on a daily basis, because again, the continual exercise keeps my little problem in check. …well almost anyway.  I guess we just have to strive to improve, to meet the perfection people expect of us.  Sorry so long.  It just depresses me. It seemed a good place to let it all out.

Just go on, you’re doing great! Look for the nice and funny things to read, do you know alt.ascii-art??  I know what it is, just be perfect where you are strong. I’m 62 now, know my daily problems, and even now i am fairly confident using my 2nd language. — ViSiToR Things going wrong are the undisputable proof that Murphy’s Law was applicable.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you think it’s possible to overcome your childhood dyslexia to such a degree, that you wonder whether it’s easier to fall back to your old ways? 25 years ago I was recommended for "the special school" before a radical teacher (for the time) objected on the grounds that I was obviously dyslexic.  20 years ago, despite acceptance from most teachers, the other kids treated me as the dumb kid.  I couldn’t understand the structure of words, never mind sentences – or even the *need* for paragraphs.  15 years ago, they started to accept me. Due to the sheer patience of a special needs teacher, we found a regime that was good for me, and I overcame a lot of spelling and grammar problems through sheer practice and memory improvement techniques.  10 years ago, it seemed I’d improved so much that *some* fellow University students would sneer at the extra time I was given to do work (and for exams).  My major stumbling block during and since University has been speed.  My writing is rarely accurate when first written or typed.  I generally have to go over it several times afterwards, to make it acceptable for viewing. i find that a franklyn spelling machine works well much better than spell checkers, but as its a personal thing got to find what works with you. Despite such improvement, my grammar is still flawed and I suffer from hard-wired, almost instinctive relapses.  The most prevalent problems being mirrored letters and misused apostrophes. Most often, I know that dog is *D*og. But sometimes, I’ll type bog…which, to my mind, still reads *D*og (in my head), even though it’s written as bog.  (Does that even make sense!)  And so, my grammar and spelling is still full of little anomalies. yes mine can range from okay to praticaly unreadable, depending on who and where but in friends emails chat etc it doesn’t matter they have learnt to decode if its a bad day. As a consequence, many debates I partake in, are sabotaged by Usenet pedants. I end up feeling driven out, despite passionately wanting to take part.  Sometimes I get annoyed and say "I didn’t think that was too bad for a dyslexic!"  And today I got accused of not being dyslexic, before being lectured on what is expected of me as a dyslexic.  It just makes me wonder what it was all for sometimes.  Why I try so hard, even today, forcing myself to read prolifically despite word-blindness, just to make correct spelling *instinctive* (I remember pictures of words, rather than spelling if that makes sense).  And to think I use Usenet as another aid. Forcing myself to write on a daily basis, because again, the continual exercise keeps my little problem in check. mmm yes there are some price (incert explitive of choice) out there by letured by whom? Usenet posters? …well almost anyway.  I guess we just have to strive to improve, to meet the perfection people expect of us.  Sorry so long.  It just depresses me. It seemed a good place to let it all out. "perfection" that i think is the point ie sometimes good enought is better there is a ratio between effort and reward. no one can be perfect and if dyselxic you will not be cured, you might manage it very well but you still are what you are? is that a bad thing? roger

Tell me about it, I am feed up with people telling me because I seem to cope with reading and writing that I can’t be dyslexic. I think if you can relax things become a lot easier but modern life puts a lot of pressure on you. So you get stressed, and stress leads to more stress, so you get depressed and then you start to give up. It’s a hard battle and reading and writing is just part of it. I never had the chance, as a child, to be recognised as being dyslexic and it was only until I was 34 (after a long term relationship ended) that I started to get help from lots of different bodies of people. If you haven’t already read the book "The Gift Of Dyslexia" by Ron Davis ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-9739332-4181463 ) a dyslexic, then please do. It made a great difference to my life, the only book I couldn’t put down. You might also find this web site http://www.davisdyslexia.com useful. Take care and try to relax I find it is the only thing that works for me. Good luck and if I can be of any more help please email me. Dominic

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Remember your first headache/migraine?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – had always been headache prone in that – if I missed breakfast, smelled cigarettes or unpleasant smells, played in the hot sun – I got frequent headaches even as a child. My first classic with aura was not until after my first child was born. By the way, I had three children and each pregancy was migraine free. I do not think I had an actual migraine diagnosis until I was an older teenager and had already had years of headaches.  Oh yes, I also had numerous surgeries as a child and associate my first headaches and nausea with waking from anesthesia. Probably not related though. I have had headaches of some sort all my life (49 years). Blessings, Marty

Oh, my goodness, Marty, are we sisters? Except for the surgeries, almost everything  you said applies to me as well! I was always told (when I was in bed with the pillow over my head) that "children don’t get headaches." Yikes! I had two children and both times (even though I puked up my guts for 5 months) I did not have one headache. And, I am almost 49! SueS

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I remember the most memorable…when I realized that my headaches were not normal.  But I had them as a teenager all the time.  They didn’t seem to be more to me until I had been off the pill for about six months.  I had been on the pill since I was 17, so I guess the hormones just took over…I was 27 when that happened. But truly, the worst first migraine I had was when they gave me progesterone to stop a miscarriage.  I tought I was dying for days straight. Sad thing, I can’t remember what not having migraines ever felt like. Michelle – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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I was in my early twenties, came home from work with what I then thought of as another *sick* headache, pain really bad, throwing up etc.  I had some fiorinal, took that, stretched out on the bed to sleep it off and came face to face with a huge spider on the wall looking right at me (I knew it was). I grabbed the hammer on the night stand (the house was new and we were still putting it together), swung at the spider, he went down the wall, and I twisted to hit him again, yep, I got him, also ended up in ER the next day with 3 torn cartilages in my ribs! Today has been a really bad day for me, Mr. Migraine moved in yesterday afternoon and I’ve had to hit the meds several times, been mostly sleeping and feeling too sick to eat.  I finally woke up about seven tonight and managed to eat a little, this one is a bad round, I hope it’s over, just have to wait and see.  Hope you’re just *slow* and not feeling bad Lavon, and hope everyone else is having a good night. Hugs, ~Sage – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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I’m sorry Lavon, you can tell *I"m* slow tonight for sure!  I thought you said you were slow and you meant the group, LOL, leave it to me!  I reread your post because I was thinking how awful that must have been for those Dr’s to tell you to basically live with the pain since they’d *saved* you. It’s like they didn’t care, shame on them!  I’m glad you finally found a DR who cares enough to give you pain meds. Hugs, ~Sage – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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Sad thing, I can’t remember what not having migraines ever felt like.

Hoo boy,. can I relate to that.  The first?  Dunno, but I do recall sitting in the back seat of my Dad’s car with the family on our way to the beach for our summer vacation. I might’ve been 3 years old.  I felt awful … half of my body, mostly head, hurting & pounding like hell … & the nausea enough that I was concentrating so hard to not throw up.  My Dad looked back at me in the rear view & said to my Mom, "God, look at her Ruth, she’s turning green.  Shall I pull over?" The second the car door was opened, my head was outside & I barfed, projectile style.  Once my sister overheard them talking about me …. "I don’t know if we’re gonna raise that one" … scared my sister, who even now gets terribly disturbed if I’m having a killer headache in her presence.  She knows I’m not gonna die of it, but still thinks I might. Now that I’m 67, it’s still happening.  Geeze, huh?

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Catherine, that reminds me of all the times I got car sick when I was a kid, don’t remember if my head hurt or not, but do remember the paper bags Mom kept in the car for trips. :-( Hugs, ~Sage  (I wonder what she did with them?)  Ewww

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sad thing, I can’t remember what not having migraines ever felt like. Hoo boy,. can I relate to that.  The first?  Dunno, but I do recall sitting in the back seat of my Dad’s car with the family on our way to the beach for our summer vacation. I might’ve been 3 years old.  I felt awful … half of my body, mostly head, hurting & pounding like hell … & the nausea enough that I was concentrating so hard to not throw up.  My Dad looked back at me in the rear view & said to my Mom, "God, look at her Ruth, she’s turning green.  Shall I pull over?" The second the car door was opened, my head was outside & I barfed, projectile style.  Once my sister overheard them talking about me …. "I don’t know if we’re gonna raise that one" … scared my sister, who even now gets terribly disturbed if I’m having a killer headache in her presence.  She knows I’m not gonna die of it, but still thinks I might. Now that I’m 67, it’s still happening.  Geeze, huh?

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Great question, Lavon.  I was in elementary school when I began complaining of pain behind my eyes.  I had to sit close to the board or else words looked blurry.  My eyes checked out fine, but one eye doc asked my mom if she suffered from migraines.  She did and so did her mom, so he said I was showing early signs. Pain became a whole lot worse during puberty, and transformed into CDH during high school. Jasmine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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I was 11, it was a spring afternoon, and I was in my bedroom.  I was feeling sort of ‘off’, as though it was a bit stuffy in my room.  I hoped opening a window and having a nap would help. I woke up realizing I might have to vomit.  As I looked around my room I got really scared because it was like looking through a thick, decorative, glass brick.  I tried to rub my eyes to get rid of the distortions and realized I couldn’t move my right hand properly – sort of clubbed myself in the face. I felt more naseatious, and tried to head for the bathroom, but my right leg wouldn’t move properly either so I fell on the floor.  I grabbed something, not sure what it was, and a bunch of stuff fell on me.  I at least managed to locate a waste basket and lift my head enough to mostly vomit into it.  That’s when I got really scared. I starting thinking this must be a stroke.  I wasn’t sure who was home, but I tried to call out.  Then I realized I couldn’t speak.  It was like having some word right on the tip of your tongue, but you just can’t pull it out of your brain.  I knew I wanted someone to come help me, but had no idea how to vocalize it.  No one was home anyway. I think I managed to make some kind of noise, and I rolled onto one side trying to get away from the stray vomit and to avoid choking on any more that followed.  There was lots of heaving, weird dead sensations from different parts of my body, and all the while I just wished I could see what the heck fell on me. I have no idea how much time passed, but I eventually realized I could move a little more, see a little more, and generally think a bit more clearly.  I pulled myself onto my bed, and that’s when the pain began.  It wasn’t very painful at all, as far as migraines go, but I really thought it was the end for me. I know I slept for some time, and then I was totally wiped out the next day. When I explained what happened my family looked pretty scared.  They told me my aunt had ’spells’ like this and that the doctors said it was migraine. hmm, thanks helping bring all that back up.  I’ll let you know how the counselling goes.  :)

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I’m sorry Lavon, you can tell *I"m* slow tonight for sure!  I thought you said you were slow and you meant the group, LOL, leave it to me!  I reread your post because I was thinking how awful that must have been for those Dr’s to tell you to basically live with the pain since they’d *saved* you. It’s like they didn’t care, shame on them!  I’m glad you finally found a DR who cares enough to give you pain meds.

Hi, Sage! I did mean the group was *slow.*  I just wanted to make sure there was something *real* to talk about instead of another peeing contest.  I just got off being "slow" myself. I reread your post because I was thinking how awful that must have been for those

Dr’s to tell you to basically live with the pain since they’d *saved* you. It’s like they didn’t care, shame on them!  I’m glad you finally found a DR who cares enough to give you pain meds. Me, too! :-)  I think Joe Top Neurosurgeon was telling me that wasn’t his job.  But so many others said it that nobody thought it was theirs, either. I think it was due to my age.  I was 19.  Who wants to start a 19 yr-old on pain meds?  Actually, all through college, i wasn’t given one pain med.  Not one.  My roommate and i didn’t even keep aspirin in the apt. Deep peace, Lavon

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Hello twin sister!! Were YOU born in September??

Unfortunately, I was born in May- or maybe that’s just what they’re TELLING me! SueS

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Oh, my goodness, Marty, are we sisters?

Hello twin sister!! Were YOU born in September??

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I didn’t have a clue wht a mgiraine was until my 30’s so I guess I’m lucky. I remember feeling like my head was just going to burst and the pain got so bad that I ended up in the ER only to be given (it’s ok to laugh) fiorcet. It took about another week to get soemone to take me serious and decide it was a migraine not just a stress headache and then the headches just didnt’ seem to go away for years. I didn’t have any pain problems at all until after a surgery, the therory is that the surgery set off my fibro which brought on the migraiens, I don’t know though, a lot of things were happening abuot then in my life.  who knows what brought them on. About a year after my first headche I found this group and some of the folks I knew back then are still here.  Sad huh?  It would have been nive to see them all be gone, would have been nice to have my own migraiens go away too!  But nice isn’t a word I use with migraines. Oh well, such is life! Karen

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Round about 1975, lying on the settee with a migraine so bad the pain made me cry (except I didn’t know the word "migraine" then). Sal

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I doin’t remember my first migraine headache, but back when I was in high school the nights before I would get my periods I would get real suckers of headaches. The headaches I was getting were so bad that I would just go into my bedroom with the lights off and try to sleep it off. When I was in high school, didn’t know that those headaches were migraines. I finally got diagnoised with migraines when I moved to San Diego 9 years ago when I was waking up with the same bad headaches that I was having since high school and I went to a Headache specialist and he told me that I was getting migraines. Barbara Booth

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I’m sorry you’re in pain…don’t some of our bad episodes start to sound so similar.  Mostly you lie in bed either trying to sleep or going in and out of it.  Too sick to eat. Blessings coming your way.  I hope you feel better very soon. Michelle

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was in my early twenties, came home from work with what I then thought of as another *sick* headache, pain really bad, throwing up etc.  I had some fiorinal, took that, stretched out on the bed to sleep it off and came face to face with a huge spider on the wall looking right at me (I knew it was). I grabbed the hammer on the night stand (the house was new and we were still putting it together), swung at the spider, he went down the wall, and I twisted to hit him again, yep, I got him, also ended up in ER the next day with 3 torn cartilages in my ribs! Today has been a really bad day for me, Mr. Migraine moved in yesterday afternoon and I’ve had to hit the meds several times, been mostly sleeping and feeling too sick to eat.  I finally woke up about seven tonight and managed to eat a little, this one is a bad round, I hope it’s over, just have to wait and see.  Hope you’re just *slow* and not feeling bad Lavon, and hope everyone else is having a good night. Hugs, ~Sage Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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I remember the bus rides in school…that about killed me.  I do also remember growing up in the humid Minnesota summers and my head hurt.  I would lie down by the floor fan to try to cool off and make my head better. But nothing was as bad as the migraines when I got older. Michelle

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Catherine, that reminds me of all the times I got car sick when I was a kid, don’t remember if my head hurt or not, but do remember the paper bags Mom kept in the car for trips. :-( Hugs, ~Sage  (I wonder what she did with them?)  Ewww Sad thing, I can’t remember what not having migraines ever felt like. Hoo boy,. can I relate to that.  The first?  Dunno, but I do recall sitting in the back seat of my Dad’s car with the family on our way to the beach for our summer vacation. I might’ve been 3 years old.  I felt awful … half of my body, mostly head, hurting & pounding like hell … & the nausea enough that I was concentrating so hard to not throw up.  My Dad looked back at me in the rear view & said to my Mom, "God, look at her Ruth, she’s turning green.  Shall I pull over?" The second the car door was opened, my head was outside & I barfed, projectile style.  Once my sister overheard them talking about me …. "I don’t know if we’re gonna raise that one" … scared my sister, who even now gets terribly disturbed if I’m having a killer headache in her presence.  She knows I’m not gonna die of it, but still thinks I might. Now that I’m 67, it’s still happening.  Geeze, huh?

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Wow, that must have been extremely scary for an 11 year old…just about anyone.  It really sounds like a stroke.  Are you sure it wasn’t?  You must have had episodes like that since? Michelle

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was 11, it was a spring afternoon, and I was in my bedroom.  I was feeling sort of ‘off’, as though it was a bit stuffy in my room.  I hoped opening a window and having a nap would help. I woke up realizing I might have to vomit.  As I looked around my room I got really scared because it was like looking through a thick, decorative, glass brick.  I tried to rub my eyes to get rid of the distortions and realized I couldn’t move my right hand properly – sort of clubbed myself in the face. I felt more naseatious, and tried to head for the bathroom, but my right leg wouldn’t move properly either so I fell on the floor.  I grabbed something, not sure what it was, and a bunch of stuff fell on me.  I at least managed to locate a waste basket and lift my head enough to mostly vomit into it.  That’s when I got really scared. I starting thinking this must be a stroke.  I wasn’t sure who was home, but I tried to call out.  Then I realized I couldn’t speak.  It was like having some word right on the tip of your tongue, but you just can’t pull it out of your brain.  I knew I wanted someone to come help me, but had no idea how to vocalize it.  No one was home anyway. I think I managed to make some kind of noise, and I rolled onto one side trying to get away from the stray vomit and to avoid choking on any more that followed.  There was lots of heaving, weird dead sensations from different parts of my body, and all the while I just wished I could see what the heck fell on me. I have no idea how much time passed, but I eventually realized I could move a little more, see a little more, and generally think a bit more clearly.  I pulled myself onto my bed, and that’s when the pain began.  It wasn’t very painful at all, as far as migraines go, but I really thought it was the end for me. I know I slept for some time, and then I was totally wiped out the next day. When I explained what happened my family looked pretty scared.  They told me my aunt had ’spells’ like this and that the doctors said it was migraine. hmm, thanks helping bring all that back up.  I’ll let you know how the counselling goes.  :)

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Yes the bad episodes do sound similar!  Thank you Michelle, the darn thing started back in again last night, right about the time I wanted to go to bed, so I took my meds and waited till they kicked in, then finally went to bed, wondering if I’d start all over again this morning.  NOT!!!  Yippeee! I’ve been real slow today, but not in pain. :-)  Hope you’re doing well! Hugs, ~Sage

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sorry you’re in pain…don’t some of our bad episodes start to sound so similar.  Mostly you lie in bed either trying to sleep or going in and out of it.  Too sick to eat. Blessings coming your way.  I hope you feel better very soon. Michelle I was in my early twenties, came home from work with what I then thought of as another *sick* headache, pain really bad, throwing up etc.  I had some fiorinal, took that, stretched out on the bed to sleep it off and came face to face with a huge spider on the wall looking right at me (I knew it was). I grabbed the hammer on the night stand (the house was new and we were still putting it together), swung at the spider, he went down the wall, and I twisted to hit him again, yep, I got him, also ended up in ER the next day with 3 torn cartilages in my ribs! Today has been a really bad day for me, Mr. Migraine moved in yesterday afternoon and I’ve had to hit the meds several times, been mostly sleeping and feeling too sick to eat.  I finally woke up about seven tonight and managed to eat a little, this one is a bad round, I hope it’s over, just have to wait and see.  Hope you’re just *slow* and not feeling bad Lavon, and hope everyone else is having a good night. Hugs, ~Sage Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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Middle of October, 1978.  I was 17.  Several days earlier we had moved from North Africa, back to Canada, about which I was thrilled but a bit nervous (hard to fit in after 7 years away). Didn’t recognize any of the symptoms and had no idea what to expect.  Ate a big pork chop dinner thinking that would make me feel better.  It ended up all over my Grandma’s basement floor.  I was put back to bed and given *shudder* hot buttered rum to "calm my stomach".  Can you imagine anything worse in the middle of a migraine? Thanks for the walk down memory lane, my dear Vonster. Warm hugs, Starbug and her Zoo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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Hi Lavon, My headaches started at puberty. While I do not remember the very first ha, I do remember the first "doozie". I was in highschool, it really scared me because the pain was so intense, I was puking, could not walk right, barely wanted to move because it felt like a vessel was pulsing and might rupture. I buried my head under my pillow and my mom packed my head and neck with ice. I lay as still as I could and cried. The next "doozie" was not until I was away at college – same as that first awful one I recall.  I had always been headache prone in that – if I missed breakfast, smelled cigarettes or unpleasant smells, played in the hot sun – I got frequent headaches even as a child. My first classic with aura was not until after my first child was born. By the way, I had three children and each pregancy was migraine free. I do not think I had an actual migraine diagnosis until I was an older teenager and had already had years of headaches.  Oh yes, I also had numerous surgeries as a child and associate my first headaches and nausea with waking from anesthesia. Probably not related though. I have had headaches of some sort all my life (49 years). Blessings, Marty

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Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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chris and Lavonne schreef: Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  

There were many times as a kid that I’d go sick from noisy and stressful situations, like birthday parties. Things I’d look forward to, but that turned out to be disastrous in the end. I very clearly remember going to see ‘Lady and the Vagabond’, becoming sick in the cinema, and going straight to bed afterwards, crying from misery. Terrible headache, nausea, throwing up, feeling completely miserable in general. I’m not sure whether they were migraines then, I always referred to them as just headaches. It didn’t happen very frequently. I must have been 8 to 10 years old then. In my puberty I’d still have those headaches, getting progressively worse. Can’t remember much of my early 20’s (early dementia hitting in I guess). My first pregnancy was headache-free, when my daughter was born, it got worse. Second pregnancy headache-free, then when my son was born, it got *really* bad. When I told my gynacologist that I had bad migraines (could easily make that diagnosis myself as my grandmother, mother and sister all have/had migraines), he just told me ‘that’s what you get from the pill’. End of story for him. That made me so mad, that I never ever went back there. Went to my GP, and he didn’t mind brainstorming with me for a while, and my best option was to get on Depo Provera (my migraines having to do with my hormonal cycle). I was really happy with that, my migraines were manageable, I could take care of my kids, and didn’t take as much painkillers as I used to. After my divorce, I though at a certain point that the stress-levels I was suffering were much less, so I’d try to quit the Depo Provera. Hm, wrong decision, it got really bad again. Now I’m on the contraceptive injection again, but it takes time, *lots* of time, to kick in and reach its full effect. Having a migraine right now, and I’m feeling lousy, the painkillers hardly help at all, I’m feeling down-down-down, blah. Well, that’s my story in short. Hello to you all. Glad to have found this group, been reading along for a while now. Hope my English isn’t too bad, it’s hard to think in another language when the brain isn’t functioning well. Anyone have this weird side-effect, that it’s like you have dyslexia when you’re having a migraine? And sometimes I make these weird sort of ‘Freudian’ mistakes… it’s odd :) — Basil

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I was around 10 years old. The pain and pounding would send me up to my bedroom to lie down with a pillow over my eyes. When I woke up the headache would be gone.

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I think i had my first when I was in the 6th grade.I got sick and threw up at school and I know i didn’t have the flu. I was around 20 or so when they started getting really bad. One of the worst ones i remember I got on Valentines day and I was working in my family’s florist shop at the time. I stayed out and worked until 10:00 am or so and then I went and spent the rest of the day on the floor of the backroom. I don’t remember how many times i threw up but it was alot. I remember my brother being pissed at me when I told him there was no way i could make any flower deleveries. people who never get migraines don’t realize how lucky they are. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, folks!  Little slow lately, so i thought this might be interesting (…could be wrong, ya know.)  What is your first headache memory?  I realize many had migraine since infancy, so remembering your first migraine may be impossible.  But what is the first one you remember? Mine is June of ‘85.  I’d had the pain since November of ‘84 and was diagnosed with my first brain tumor.  I woke up one morning with double vision, a headache and i couldn’t walk straight forward…kept straying into the left wall.  Had the tumor out in April of ‘85.  The reason i put June of ‘85 is that the neurosurgeon said i wouldn’t have the pain after the tumor was extracted and i had mended enough.  It was two months after and i was still having headpain.  His answer?  "You had brain surgery…you are alive, you are not paralyzed (i was a music major and paranoid about losing any feeling in my hands,)  you aren’t mentally retarded and your mind is intact. What do you expect?" I remember his words exactly because he (and others) told me the exact same thing many times since.  It wasn’t until ‘87 that my primary doc put me on my first preventative….Inderal.  Had to switch to Corgard the next week cuz i couldn’t sleep on the Inderal, even though i took it first thing in the a.m. Mine isn’t a very good example….i’m was thinking it should be for folks remembering that particular pain event….the day, the first time the pain struck you as not being just your basic stressful-day, two aspirin headache. Deep peace, Lavon

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Am I Dyslexic ?

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Sound like dyslexia to me. I also have to work hard to get the same out put…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello For all of my life I have been a terrible speller it is something that I believe has held me back and stopped me reaching my true potential. I have difficulty telling my right from left and on occasions when writing the number 9 tend to write the letter p and vice versa. Computers and spell checkers have been a god send to me. But mistakes still get through. The most common being "you" for the word "your" missing the r off I can re read a section of text with this error 5 times and miss it every time. Also I can have problems with numbers I can’t remember telephone numbers and will often write say 56 as 65. Reading is not such a problem even reading out loud I’m ok. Does this sound like a dyslexic. I’m 40 now and over the years I think I have become a slightly better speller only because I use the computer more in work and at home. But it’s still hard work I feel I have to work much harder that other people to get the same results. Do you think I’m a sufferer ??

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probably  :-) Hedda

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello For all of my life I have been a terrible speller it is something that I believe has held me back and stopped me reaching my true potential. I have difficulty telling my right from left and on occasions when writing the number 9 tend to write the letter p and vice versa. Computers and spell checkers have been a god send to me. But mistakes still get through. The most common being "you" for the word "your" missing the r off I can re read a section of text with this error 5 times and miss it every time. Also I can have problems with numbers I can’t remember telephone numbers and will often write say 56 as 65. Reading is not such a problem even reading out loud I’m ok. Does this sound like a dyslexic. I’m 40 now and over the years I think I have become a slightly better speller only because I use the computer more in work and at home. But it’s still hard work I feel I have to work much harder that other people to get the same results. Do you think I’m a sufferer ??

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Hello For all of my life I have been a terrible speller it is something that I believe has held me back and stopped me reaching my true potential. I have difficulty telling my right from left and on occasions when writing the number 9 tend to write the letter p and vice versa. Computers and spell checkers have been a god send to me. But mistakes still get through. The most common being "you" for the word "your" missing the r off I can re read a section of text with this error 5 times and miss it every time. Also I can have problems with numbers I can’t remember telephone numbers and will often write say 56 as 65. Reading is not such a problem even reading out loud I’m ok. Does this sound like a dyslexic. I’m 40 now and over the years I think I have become a slightly better speller only because I use the computer more in work and at home. But it’s still hard work I feel I have to work much harder that other people to get the same results. Do you think I’m a sufferer ??

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dyslexi maybe…. bipolar & genius IQ known for sure

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The maths problem is dyscalculia I think, whilst dyspraxia is a clumsiness thing, I think!

This is correct, I believe. Chris

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Dyslexia runs in my family.  My family, uncle, aunt and myself all have been told we are dyslexia.  My son enjoys reading and has an IQ of 146.  When tested in Math, he ranks in the 99 percentile, however, he feels stupid in math and hates it.  Could he have a form of dyslexia that only relates to math? Thanks Jinn21

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Dyslexia runs in my family.  My family, uncle, aunt and myself all have been told we are dyslexia.  My son enjoys reading and has an IQ of 146.  When tested in Math, he ranks in the 99 percentile, however, he feels stupid in math and hates it.  Could he have a form of dyslexia that only relates to math?

Theres something called "dypraxia" I think and this is what dyslexics have with numbers, I have problems with numbers in fact worse than with letters, I seem at times to be able to improve my spelling, but not my maths

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Dyslexia runs in my family.  My family, uncle, aunt and myself all have been told we are dyslexia.  My son enjoys reading and has an IQ of 146.  When tested in Math, he ranks in the 99 percentile, however, he feels stupid in math and hates it.  Could he have a form of dyslexia that only relates to math? Theres something called "dypraxia" I think and this is what dyslexics have with numbers, I have problems with numbers in fact worse than with letters, I seem at times to be able to improve my spelling, but not my maths

The maths problem is dyscalculia I think, whilst dyspraxia is a clumsiness thing, I think! — best wishes etc, Zeronic      zeronic AT uk2 DOT net "This is a great quotation!" (Anon.)

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I rank somewhere around the 5th percentile with regard to Maths, it is called dyscalculia that sort of thing really buggers up your global IQ score. — Larry "We are all of one mind, one equal mind, and if each of us persists in being the centre of our own existence we are all doomed to suffer at each others hands. I cannot exist on my own without you, neither can you be without me, what is the world wide web about after all?. We are interdependent whether we are aware of the fact or not"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dyslexia runs in my family.  My family, uncle, aunt and myself all have been told we are dyslexia.  My son enjoys reading and has an IQ of 146.  When tested in Math, he ranks in the 99 percentile, however, he feels stupid in math and hates it.  Could he have a form of dyslexia that only relates to math? Thanks Jinn21

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