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Response to Signman 3/4/99 8:29AM posting: I apologize for coming across rudely.  You are correct as Prude U points out that the writer of the other post did not discuss speech problems.  I was just venting my frustration because I took your comments to imply that one is better off to go to an audiologist in a hospital setting vs. one in private practice in general.  If you don’t mind my asking, did the audiologist find that you have central auditory problems?  If so, what was done? Grindo

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>I apologize for coming across rudely.  You are correct as Prude U points out >that the writer of the other post did not discuss speech problems

Apology accepted   Next time, it’ll cost you 50 lashes w/ a wet noodle!! > If you don’t mind my asking, did the audiologist find that you >have central auditory problems?  If so, what was done?

Yes, through an extensive battery of audiological tests involving listening to sounds and trying to determine speech over background, trying to repeat a set of numbers back w/ background noise and/or competing numbers being played in the other ear…a slew of tests like that…which left me exhausted, frustrated, and very aggravated.  I was truly glad when the audiologist gave me the results and written copies of them as well.  I then contacted a few people in my locale and got additional information on CAPD, though most of it was geared toward children as clients. Hope this helps, Grindo. signman

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, signman wrote: >>I apologize for coming across rudely.  You are correct as Prude U points >out >>that the writer of the other post did not discuss speech problems >Apology accepted   Next time, it’ll cost you 50 lashes w/ a wet noodle!! >> If you don’t mind my asking, did the audiologist find that you >>have central auditory problems?  If so, what was done? >Yes, through an extensive battery of audiological tests involving listening >to sounds and trying to determine speech over background, trying to repeat a >set of numbers back w/ background noise and/or competing numbers being >played in the other ear…a slew of tests like that…which left me >exhausted, frustrated, and very aggravated.  I was truly glad when the >audiologist gave me the results and written copies of them as well.  I then >contacted a few people in my locale and got additional information on CAPD, >though most of it was geared toward children as clients. >Hope this helps, Grindo.

Is there a visual equivalent of this? I notice that I have perceptual problems that look a lot like what I’ve seen described as dyslexia, but I don’t have it while reading paper, but rather when looking at people or small things moving…some things seem to "transpose" themselves momentarily. Kinda hard to describe since it’s intermittent and is sort of like my brain has a hiccup. (-: — Therese Shellabarger      -     tlsh…@concentric.net http://www.concentric.net/~tlshell/   Shalom chaverot!

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>Some hospitals have the advantage of being research institutions, and to be >affiliated with some hospitals, professionals *must* continue their >professional development, to keep up on new trends. Also, many >hospital-based professionals are affiliated with universities, and are >professors as well..

True, but it may surprise people to know that there are many private practice audiologists who are connected w ith universities and these and others who are not  affiliated with universities are often involved in research.  In fact, private practice audiologists are often involved in beta testing of new hearing aids before most acamedicians even hear about these instruments.  State licensing laws often require audiologists to complete so many hours of continuing education.  Most of the audiologists I know attend professional meetings and conferences regularly.  But not all audiologists are alike and it would be hard to know who is proficient in certain areas such as CAPD testing based solely on whether the audiologist is in a clinic, hospital, school, university, or private practice setting. PRUDE U

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -signman wrote: > >First, the problem sounds like a typical mild high frequency hearing loss. > >Doubt any connection with the speech. > The writer was noting difficulty in understanding what’s spoken to him!!! > That’s why ) > >Second, why would you suggest an audiologist at a hospital rather than one > in  private practice?  The one in private practice may very well have many > more years experience.  I am sure the hospital will love to run all sorts of > tests at higher fees than are typically charged by someone in private > practice. > >Really dumb advice, Signman. > I made that suggestion since I had been going to a few audiologists in > private practice for a number of years…and NONE of them ever mentioned the > Central Auditory Processing Disorder to me!!  When I went to an audiologist > at a local hospital, the FIRST question I was asked was whether or not I > had/been tested for CAPD!!!!!  To me, that’s sufficient reason to SUGGEST > going to a hospital for such testing. > As for telling me my advice was dumb, Grindo…this is a SUPPORT GROUP. > Unless someone is flaming here, comments are generally not made as to the > quality of advice given. > "What’s one man’s meat may be another man’s poison." (unknown source) > signman

Hey guys, I agree about the insults; this isn’t an aol chat room. I would be glad to find a motivated, empathetic audiologist. The one experience I’ve had with University associated audiologists disproves that they are necessarily better than a private practicioner. I’ve gotten better info and more sincere interest here than anywhere so far.

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>The writer was noting difficulty in understanding what’s spoken to him!!! >That’s why ) >at a local hospital, the FIRST question I was asked was whether or not I >had/been tested for CAPD!!!!!  To me, that’s sufficient reason to SUGGEST >going to a hospital for such testing

First, the writer was referring to her inability to produce speech properly and wondered if there was a neurological connection between her speech production and speech perception. Second, it is hard to believe that the very first question any audiologist would ask in taking a history would be "Have you ever been tested for a central auditory processing disorder?"  particularly in an adult patient.  So, I would wonder about this hospital audiologist who may be trying to justify his or her existence by drumming up a caseload for CAPD testing.   I agree with Grindo that you are more likely to  find more experienced audiologists in private practice and there are those who have much experience with CAPD testing.  I think he could have phrased his displeasure with your suggestion a little more delicately.  My advice to anyone who is interested in being tested for CAPD is to call around and see who has a lot of experience in this area, whether they are in private practice, a university, or a hospital. I think Grindo was perturbed with your dissing of private practice audiologists and I can understand his feelings. PRUDE U

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>>Doubt any connection with the speech. >The writer was noting difficulty in understanding what’s spoken to him!!! >That’s why )

I just went back and reread the original post and you are right about this. The writer was talking about her trouble understanding speech, not her speaking.  And, yes, of course, this would be affected by a hearing loss or central auditory processing disorder (assuming normal peripheral hearing). Somehow Grindo and I both misread this or confused this with another post here where someone was talking about trouble speaking and hearing. PRUDE U

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In article <19990303231029.10303.00002…@ng-cf1.aol.com>, grind…@aol.com says… >Second, why would you suggest an audiologist at a hospital rather than one in >private practice?  The one in private practice may very well have many more >years experience.  I am sure the hospital will love to run all sorts of tests >at higher fees than are typically charged by someone in private practice. >Really dumb advice, Signman.

Not necessarily dumb advice, but not necessarily good advice, either. We were not able to find a good clinical audioligist in private practice. We couldn’t find one in a hospital, either! We finally found a fabulous one, who happened to be in a hospital. She reffered us to a private-practice dispensing audiologist for hearing aids. Some hospitals have the advantage of being research institutions, and to be affiliated with some hospitals, professionals *must* continue their professional development, to keep up on new trends. Also, many hospital-based professionals are affiliated with universities, and are professors as well…constantly being challenged by their students, and required by the *school* to keep up and to publish, as well. There’s no such *requirement* imposed on private-practice professionals. However, a GOOD professional in private practice will keep up on such things, and may have the leeway to do MORE of it, rather than having to adhere to sometimes arbitrary or counterproductive policies and procedures of a hospital. So one isn’t necessarily better than another. –kerri

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>First, the problem sounds like a typical mild high frequency hearing loss. >Doubt any connection with the speech.

The writer was noting difficulty in understanding what’s spoken to him!!! That’s why ) >Second, why would you suggest an audiologist at a hospital rather than one

in  private practice?  The one in private practice may very well have many more years experience.  I am sure the hospital will love to run all sorts of tests at higher fees than are typically charged by someone in private practice. >Really dumb advice, Signman.

I made that suggestion since I had been going to a few audiologists in private practice for a number of years…and NONE of them ever mentioned the Central Auditory Processing Disorder to me!!  When I went to an audiologist at a local hospital, the FIRST question I was asked was whether or not I had/been tested for CAPD!!!!!  To me, that’s sufficient reason to SUGGEST going to a hospital for such testing. As for telling me my advice was dumb, Grindo…this is a SUPPORT GROUP. Unless someone is flaming here, comments are generally not made as to the quality of advice given. "What’s one man’s meat may be another man’s poison." (unknown source) signman

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>You may want to consider being tested for Central Auditory Processing >Disorders. Talk to audiologists affiliated w/ a hospital, rather than one in >private practice.

First, the problem sounds like a typical mild high frequency hearing loss. Doubt any connection with the speech. Second, why would you suggest an audiologist at a hospital rather than one in private practice?  The one in private practice may very well have many more years experience.  I am sure the hospital will love to run all sorts of tests at higher fees than are typically charged by someone in private practice. Really dumb advice, Signman. Grindo

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Hi Everyone,      I wanted to thank you for your advice/help. I have gone back to my doc to get referrals for more deeply investigative options for finding out whats going on.      Take care, and thanks again.      -Auden

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> So far as I >know, I’m not deaf, but for the past three years I’ve been having a hard time >delineating consonants in words people speak to me and still have trouble >when >I ask for something to be repeated, or for the speaker to slow down, a bit. >This occurs whether there is noise going on in the background, or not, but >noise definetely makes it worse. I am also having terrible trouble with >telephones (including a clarity enhancing phone). Is there anything that can >be >done about this? My last hearing test came out that I had a normal hearing >range.

Sure sounds like a hearing loss in the high frequencies to me.  When was your last test?  I would contact an audiologist post haste.  I would not expect the hearing loss to affect your speech since the loss was acquired apparently way after you had established your motor patterns for speech.  Get tested again!

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On 23 Feb 1999, Ledahl wrote: >     Another question I have: Are the speech and hearing portions of the brain >in the same location? Might this be a neurotropic problem? I ask because a few >coworkers & relatives have mentioned that my speech is slurring a little. How >would I find out about this?

Oh boy. I think — just to be on the safe side — that you should get an MRI, just to rule out any sneaky stuff. I won’t say what, cuz I don’t want to scare you too much. Anytime there is unusual change in functions related to the brain, best to make sure you don’t overlook something and have a scan made ASAP. A friend of mine is dead because she didn’t do that. — Therese Shellabarger      -     tlsh…@concentric.net http://www.concentric.net/~tlshell/   Shalom chaverot!

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 but for the past three years I’ve been having a hard time >delineating consonants in words people speak to me and still have trouble when >I ask for something to be repeated, or for the speaker to slow down, a bit. >This occurs whether there is noise going on in the background, or not, but >noise definetely makes it worse>     Another question I have: Are the

speech and hearing portions of the brain >in the same location? Might this be a neurotropic problem

Auden, You may want to consider being tested for Central Auditory Processing Disorders. Talk to audiologists affiliated w/ a hospital, rather than one in private practice. signman

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In article <19990223175245.01144.00002…@ng-ft1.aol.com>,   led…@aol.com (Ledahl) wrote: >      Another question I have: Are the speech and hearing portions of the brain > in the same location? Might this be a neurotropic problem? I ask because a few > coworkers & relatives have mentioned that my speech is slurring a little. How > would I find out about this?

An auditory processing problem could cause difficulty listening in noise even with normal hearing as you described, although I don’t think it would affect your speech. I would suggest that to be safe you have this checked out by a doctor, to rule out any possible physical causes.  The doctor will probably want you to get an MRI or CAT scan, and possibly another hearing test and central auditory testing.  Good luck, and let us know how everything turns out. Carol ca…@washoehearingcenter.com ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    

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Hi Everyone,      I’m fairly new to this newsgroup, but subscribed because I’ve been running into a number of problems with hearing and communication, lately. So far as I know, I’m not deaf, but for the past three years I’ve been having a hard time delineating consonants in words people speak to me and still have trouble when I ask for something to be repeated, or for the speaker to slow down, a bit. This occurs whether there is noise going on in the background, or not, but noise definetely makes it worse. I am also having terrible trouble with telephones (including a clarity enhancing phone). Is there anything that can be done about this? My last hearing test came out that I had a normal hearing range.      Another question I have: Are the speech and hearing portions of the brain in the same location? Might this be a neurotropic problem? I ask because a few coworkers & relatives have mentioned that my speech is slurring a little. How would I find out about this?      Thank you. Please feel free to send responses to the newsgroup, or to andro…@aol.com. The address I’m posting from is a decoy for avoiding spammers & does not accept email.      Sincerely,      Auden

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>You may want to consider being tested for Central Auditory Processing >Disorders. Talk to audiologists affiliated w/ a hospital, rather than one in >private practice. >signman

Yes, everybody knows how thoughtful and caring hospitals are, and with those founts of sincerity the HMOs, and with managed care, you can be sure that it is your welfare about which the hospital is concerned, not the bottom line, like it is with evil private practice audiologists. Michael www.ridenhour.com

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