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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real, exists, and doesn’t have to be treated specifically with Irlen lenses. Way to read for content. If you carefully read what I said, this time for comprehension, you would understand my point. Can you all kindly fuck off, and take your crappy quoting skills somewhere else? We’re not interested here in uk.comp.sys.mac, and I suspect the poor things over at microsoft.public.pocketpc have enough misery in their lives without having to deal with this as well. Follow-ups set to alt.support.dyslexia. Daniele

Mark was posting from neither of those groups.  Some of the folks in ASAD shoot from the hip.  Mark says he doesn’t have ADD but he has at least an honorary dx. If someone included the words "Hamsters have dyslexia"  in their sig line would you respond favorably? **Guinea pigs have ADD. No they don’t.  They are small rodents that want out of their cages. _george

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My question to you is, What is the point in telling everyone it’s quackery?

 Mark’s posting from alt.support.attn-deficit.  A wide range of alt.snake-oil therapies have been sold as "cures" for ADHD.   In the case of ADHD the point is to use appraoches that are effective. I looked at your web site, Janna.  You’re doing good stuff. Aloha, _george

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My question to you is, What is the point in telling everyone it’s quackery?  Mark’s posting from alt.support.attn-deficit.  A wide range of alt.snake-oil therapies have been sold as "cures" for ADHD.   In the case of ADHD the point is to use appraoches that are effective. I looked at your web site, Janna.  You’re doing good stuff. Aloha, _george

Thanks. And my point of course is not that Irlen lenses cure ADHD or autism (how stupid would that be?) but that visual processing problems are real and coloured lenses (not necessarily Irlens) can help alleviate those problems. -Janna — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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If someone included the words "Hamsters have dyslexia"  in their sig line would you respond favorably? **Guinea pigs have ADD. No they don’t.  They are small rodents that want out of their cages. _george

Yeah, they do.  I have two females who live together in a 6′ wading pool in my living room. Last week they were chasing each other around the cage, and all of a sudden the one who was doing the chasing stopped running and started chewing on something.  The other one kept going until she realized that she wasn’t being chased anymore, so she decided it was the perfect time to chew on the water bottle. Trust me. ADD.  ;) -Janna (related to guinea pigs) — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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Is there anyone clever enough to know how to change it on the iPaq? I can do in on Win XP: control panel: display – appearance – "Window Text" can change color (colour -uk) in most applications. (can this be done on a Mac?) Help please.

I would re-post that question to comp.sys.mac.apps … Most of the Big Wigs in the Mac world hang out there. I have never gone unsatisfied with the help I’ve gotten there. Cheers SP — Not a real Addy, yet

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My question to you is, What is the point in telling everyone it’s quackery?  Mark’s posting from alt.support.attn-deficit.  A wide range of alt.snake-oil therapies have been sold as "cures" for ADHD.   In the case of ADHD the point is to use appraoches that are effective. I looked at your web site, Janna.  You’re doing good stuff. Aloha, _george Thanks. And my point of course is not that Irlen lenses cure ADHD or autism (how stupid would that be?) but that visual processing problems are real and coloured lenses (not necessarily Irlens) can help alleviate those problems. -Janna

Even if it’s a placebo effect in many cases, a placebo is better than doing nothing.  With reading, anything that gives the kid a boost in confidence is good. Yes, visual processing problems are real.  I have had some nasty migranes with weird visual effects. I had a weird visual problem driving today where tracks of burned rubber on the road made me dizzy. _george

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery. Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real, exists, and doesn’t have to be treated specifically with Irlen lenses. Way to read for content. If you carefully read what I said, this time for comprehension, you would understand my point.

Okay, one more time because I wasn’t totally on the ball with the last two posts. What I wrote about vision problems and using coloured lenses *was specifically written to make it clear that you don’t have to go to Irlen if you think you might have trouble with colours*. The testing I mentioned is absolutely 100% simple to do, and I can send it to anyone who wants it.  For free.  All they have to do is collect the materials, which (aside from the coloured light bulbs) are everyday items anyone has in their home. So, again… way to read for content. Sheesh. The one link you provide does allow for the existence of vision problems that are alleviated by coloured lenses.  That the one group was perfectly happy with mere tinted lenses rather than the Irlen lenses means literally *nothing* and does not impact *my* point. -Janna — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery.

Perhaps, but headaches from looking at computer screens are very real. And I know I prefer to look at the world -literally- through rose colored glasses.  Unfortunately, I have been seeing the world through clear lenses lately. _george

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery. Perhaps, but headaches from looking at computer screens are very real. And I know I prefer to look at the world -literally- through rose colored glasses.  Unfortunately, I have been seeing the world through clear lenses lately. _george

It can have a lot to do with the ‘flicker’. There is the LCD flicker … and the flourescent backlight flicker. For whatever reason, I have always foun it much more difficult to read inverted ‘white on black’  … such as reading from a chalkboard. … the ‘reading’ is easy. … the MEANING just doesn’t seem to ‘register’. I don’t know if my experience in unusual or ‘common’   …. "Black on white" has become the norm. It does occur to me that if ‘flicker’ is involved in a specific kind of way, it may be preferable to ‘invert’ Example:  Think of ’slow’ or ‘fast’ phosphours and ‘inverting’ in the old crt monitiors.   ( assuming that you can remember those things … ) flicker and it’s frequency can make a big difference.  … as can contrast … as can ‘typeface’ .. as I find as I get older.  .. as I get older, it is more difficult for me to focus near or focus far.  … ’stare’ at a computer too long and go ‘cross-eyed’ in the distance. … it’s NOT just eye focus!  … it has to do with binocular vison processing. If I get my nose out of my computer; … after a few days, things go back to normal and I don’t go about ‘cross eyed’ … and on and on and on … So many factors are involved. Go in with your head "up". P.S I wish they would make ‘incandescent’ backlights  …or… explore different florescent flicker rates … RL Actually I don’t dislike him.  Just don’t have any help to offer him and don’t find attempting to make sense of his ravings a productive use of my time.  I’ve killfiled several people for whom I have a good deal of respect because of the wrangle factor is jclarke  (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) ignoring you too?

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reading black text on a *white* background causes headaches.  Is there anyone clever enough to know how to change it on the iPaq? I can do in on Win XP: control panel: display – appearance – "Window Text" can change color (colour -uk) in most applications. (can this be done on a Mac?)

I don’t know what an iPaq is, but on Mac OS X you do it with    System Preferences Universal Access Switch to White on Black There are ways of doing it on earlier systems, but I seem to have mislaid the relevant control panel on my OS 9.1 machine. I remember doing it with a third-party utility on a system around 3.2 in the late 1980s, so probably all Macs ever made can do it.  Both that old one and the current one in Panther share a little design bug; the rounded corners of the screen display get inverted from black to white, making distracting little bright quadrants. You can also set background colour on a per-window basis in both MacOS X and the X11 window system (what most Linux people use). Under the Motif window manager on SunOS, I used to reserve girly pink for chat windows with a particular person.  One of my colleagues had all his text edit windows snot-green because he’d read in some user interface research paper that it reduced error rates.  Working on his machine made me feel slightly nauseous. Jack Campin:  11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/   for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557

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Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real

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For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) reading black text on a *white* background causes headaches. Is there anyone clever enough to know how to change it on the iPaq? I can do in on Win XP: control panel: display – appearance – "Window Text" can change color (colour -uk) in most applications. (can this be done on a Mac?)

On the Mac – ctrl-option-command-8 HTH.         -z- — My lozenge is a full earthy herbal lozenge incorporating a miscellanea of weeds known for advancing sexual longing and performance, causing an increase in sexual craving, a betterment in your volume and execution, besides as increased energy and joy during sexual activeness.

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For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) reading black text on a *white* background causes headaches. Is there anyone clever enough to know how to change it on the iPaq? I can do in on Win XP: control panel: display – appearance – "Window Text" can change color (colour -uk) in most applications. (can this be done on a Mac?) Help please.

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For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) reading black text on a *white* background causes headaches. Is there anyone clever enough to know how to change it on the iPaq? I can do in on Win XP: control panel: display – appearance – "Window Text" can change color (colour -uk) in most applications. (can this be done on a Mac?) Help please.

Universal Access Control Panel is your friend. Bob W

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For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD)

for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job.

I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. -Janna — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on.

While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery.

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For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job.

(X-post removed from my post) Hang on. Is this the same thing as ‘meers-irlen’ syndrome (my spelling may be off). My friends son has been diagnosed with this along with his dyslexia and dyspraxia in Glasgow, Scotland – as has my daughter’s boyfriend, and two kids I know at my youngest’s school. What it means to them is being prescribed coloured lenses (blue and green respectively, and I know a girl with yellow lenses), to help them with their reading. The boy with blue glasses also has blue paper, and both in conjunction, as he says ’stops the letters jumping up and down’.  Bear in mind, all this treatment is available on the UK National Health Service, so no incentive for fleecing, as it were. Just wondering? ) — Grymma AFPOh Goddess Of Hangovers; B.F.(use ‘reply to’) Sometimes I make a mental note, but then forget where I put it.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on.

A suggestion for those who need less contrast than is normally found in textbooks (i.e., black print on white paper), you might try getting some transluscent report covers of varying colors (so you can find the right "fit" for yourself or your student) and slip the "offending" page inside of the cover (i.e., the "spine" of the cover being on the outside of the page). I could not find the "el cheapo" ones that I usually get (at Wal-Mart, target, etc) for illustrative purposes, but one example can be found at http://www.keysan.com/ksu3120b.htm Buny

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery.

Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real, exists, and doesn’t have to be treated specifically with Irlen lenses. Way to read for content. -Janna — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. (X-post removed from my post) Hang on. Is this the same thing as ‘meers-irlen’ syndrome (my spelling may be off). My friends son has been diagnosed with this along with his dyslexia and dyspraxia in Glasgow, Scotland – as has my daughter’s boyfriend, and two kids I know at my youngest’s school. What it means to them is being prescribed coloured lenses (blue and green respectively, and I know a girl with yellow lenses), to help them with their reading. The boy with blue glasses also has blue paper, and both in conjunction, as he says ’stops the letters jumping up and down’.  Bear in mind, all this treatment is available on the UK National Health Service, so no incentive for fleecing, as it were. Just wondering? )

Yes, same thing. My Mom teaches piano to a girl who has to wear pink lenses so the notes stop moving around on the page. -Janna — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery. Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real, exists, and doesn’t have to be treated specifically with Irlen lenses. Way to read for content.

If you carefully read what I said, this time for comprehension, you would understand my point.

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Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real, exists, and doesn’t have to be treated specifically with Irlen lenses. Way to read for content. If you carefully read what I said, this time for comprehension, you would understand my point.

Can you all kindly fuck off, and take your crappy quoting skills somewhere else? We’re not interested here in uk.comp.sys.mac, and I suspect the poor things over at microsoft.public.pocketpc have enough misery in their lives without having to deal with this as well. Follow-ups set to alt.support.dyslexia. Daniele — Apple Juice Ltd                         Chapter Arts Centre Market Road                                     www.apple-juice.co.uk Cardiff CF5 1QE                                         029 2019 0140

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Irlens Sydrome (often assoc with Dyslexia and ADHD) for more information on the so-called Irlen Syndrome, see: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html http://pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca/~psyc365/devdys/5.html As far as I can see, this "syndrome" has not been proven in any manner and is not recognized. With costs of $500.00 and more, it seems like a fleece job. I work with autistic children and have some vision sensitivities myself. There is a simple (almost free) testing procedure that you can use *before* you go the Irlen advisory route.  It’s very simple and really only requires the purchase of several coloured lightbulbs. Once you’ve completed the testing procedure, you can choose to either try different sunglasses in shades of the colour you have tested out on, or you can contact the Irlen people and get the precise testing done. One child I work with needs the colour red.  We found this by using the simple testing procedure and will probably not bother with the Irlen testing, as he seems content with any colour of red we can provide.  I make his worksheets on red paper as much as I can, and he has constant access to red sunglasses.  His printing improved dramatically from his last white sheet to his first red sheet.  His frustration has decreased, and he is more willing to do paperwork than he was prior to learning this and making adaptations. If anyone is interested in acquiring the testing procedure, e-mail me off-list and I will send it to you.  (Yes, for free.) I myself came out mildly yellow, but haven’t yet had the opportunity to try the adaptations we implemented for the above child as I wear glasses and can’t currently afford to get sunglasses to clip on. While interesting, your point does not provide proof of the existence of the so-called Irlen Syndrome. From all my reading, it is quackery. Whether or not it’s proven, what I’m talking about is real, exists, and doesn’t have to be treated specifically with Irlen lenses. Way to read for content. If you carefully read what I said, this time for comprehension, you would understand my point.

My question to you is, What is the point in telling everyone it’s quackery? My point was to give simple information based on my experience.  It’s backed up by many others’ experience.  Just because some scientists somewhere say that it’s not real (based on what criteria, exactly?) doesn’t mean it isn’t real. -Janna (not thinking completely straight – buried under a lot of paperwork ATM) — Another random thought from my random brain… Brought to you by the colour green, the number 7, and the letters J, L, and H. http://geocities.com/janna_louise Guinea pigs have ADD. "Home is not a place.  It is wherever your passion takes you." – President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522) "If you don’t like the way the world is, you change it.  You have an obligation to change it.  You just do it one step at a time.  You really can change the world if you care enough." – Mary Wright Edelman Psalm 42:7

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