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writes Well of course they would. It sickens me that in that country people could be left to die on a trolley… Oop’s! That never happens in America of course… I have a bridge I want to sell you…
No there are no waiting lists in America, there are no poor and no crime. I don’t want a bridge thanks, there’s no where to put it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Snip… My partner reads like a seven year old. She can;t write legibally because she suiffers dyspraxia too,. She often gets flustered when trying to talk to people because she often fails to find the rights words, or more a case of stringing them together. She stutters and stammers at people because of it and lack of confidence then they call her stupid! She isn’t stupid! So she doesn’t have any confidence in herself, and thinks herself lucky to have anyone care about her or want her. Instead of giving her the confidence to go out and make the most of her life, it sounds like your taking advantage of her lack of confidence to keep her. Great way to get a free slave .
Get this, My relationship’s being scrutinized by a stranger. LOL. She’s not my slave, she’s my partner. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Snip Try being born with a bad heart, asthma and bronchitis. Try having your first heart attack at 34, waking up in intensive care with your partner crying on the bed sheets and you being too weak to even stroke her hair for a little comfort. Try spending three weeks in a wheel chair before I could get the strength to even risk walking. Try being unable to ever have kids because the strain of pregnancy will kill you. Try wondering if you’ll wake up the following day. Is that real enough for you? You are sorry for yourself aren’t you.
No. I’m more sorry for you. Why are you replying to that part of the thread now? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If your lesbian, it doesn’t stop your partner from having children… so what are you complaining about. You could have your partners children and help bring them up. Or is that to much like reality. You really haven’t a clue have you? How am I supposed to impregnate her you tactless tosser? When your young death is only round the corner. Do you ever visit the graveyard and see the children;s graves some less than a day old. I have a bad heart, it may stop and i’m dead, no warning, nothing and I’m gone. things like childrens graves and my health teach me and my beloved not to take things for granted. I don’t visit graves, I will be in one soon enough, the people I loved are not in those graves the only thing their is a shell, I find those who sit and cry over baby’s graves to be very shallow people. Tears are for those who are alive and hurting. Not for the dead who don’t care and don’t know.
Were you born this cold or was it your choice? I don’t find anything shallow about people who lost a child. I am not frightend of death, I have known him for a long time, But I am frightend of not living, Funny I saw that quote on a movie, I forgot which one it is. Good quotes don’t always come from movies.
Who said it came from a movie? I’m frightened of death because I fear for those I leave behind. Why..?… Do you imagine that they couldn’t cope without you, that your so important in their lives that they could never go on and live and laugh again.
No I know they will miss me. That’s what happens when your cared about. You should try it sometime. From your attitude I don’t imagine you have many friends. You don’t know what I have done! If you had done anything you would be rushing to tell me. No I wouldn’t! Your an open book. You have done nothing.
Wrong again. You don’t know what i’ve done and I’m not telling you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snip Where did I say anything that would make me a bigot, or a fascist. Question mark Ok ‘Bigot’, you use terms like, "people like you" which is a generalisation the you pick on intellect like it;s not ok to pick on a dyslexic because she has a brain and feelings but it’s ok to pick on a person of low intelligencve because from your apparent point of view they don’t ‘Facist’ yoou object to people having a point of view that differs to yours, so you don’t like free speech so you are a fascist and you beleive that people you regard aas being of lower intellegence, fully abled or have never travelled are an inferior species to you. Fascist and practically a Nazi. Did you fight them? If you did then you are a hypocrite too. (chuckle ) I knew you could do it, NAZI. You just lost the argument, anyone who is reduced down to calling someone else a nazi has lost
Rubbish. Another fallback on Godwin’s law. Godwin’s law states that anyone who calles somebody a Nazi inaccurately then that part of the argument is lost. Read his law. If it were as general as you think then nobody would use it and besides no one called you a Nazi. If I had then it wouldn’tt have been an incorrect usage. snip That’s you. This country practices freedom of speach and that you can’t dleal with? did you ever fight for that? some of my family did! Keep in mind you brought up the subject of the war, to boast about some of your family fighting in it.
No you bought the subject of war by telling me what you fought for. Yes I fought for that, So then you are a hypocrite because you fought for somethig you don’t beleive in! and my uncle died for that, and some of my friends, I lost two great uncles, a great antie and a grandfather. None of which you can remember, I on the other hand lost people I knew and loved.
According to you that would be shallow. I lived through the war, and the bombs, you only talk about it, I did it. So are you expecting me to apologise because I was born almost 30 years too late? You brought up the subject of the war remember, not me
No you did. Freedom of speech means we can both say what we think, yes you and me BOTH! Am I stopping you, !
If you weren’t trying then we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Your idea of freedom of speech is you saying what you think and everyone else agreeing with you. No that’s yours. Mine is about being free to agree, disagree or abstaining. Freedom of speech means we both have the right to say what we think, not just you. Not hust you either. As I recall it’s you who’s been trying to tell me what tnot to say
No it’s you been trying to tell me what not to say. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t think America will like you very much… Moaning Minis are no more popular their than they are here. they do like freedom of speech but are sensitive to the concept of other people. Too much for you apparently. You really don’t have much idea do you.. More than you so it seems. . Don’t invite me to your next book burning will you? Fascist! Childish, infantile, spoilt, and selfish, No but you deserved that! you have wasted your life, and used your illness to hide behind. Snip I would never burn books, I am a dyslexic remember for us communication is far to important to destroy it, Books aren’t everything you know. Keep them but don’t rely on them, give a breath and they are out of date. Books are constant repository’s of knowledge and information, even if the information is out of date its still of interest because it shows how people thought, and how they reacted to their circumstances.
I agree, but they aren’t everything. I think any book burning would be done by you, not me.
More likely you than me. You post on the newsgroups you take your chances, I suggest you do some reading before you post again, about ten years worth…. Why? you don’t (Grin) try reading the posts again, I have made it clear that I love books and reading, and why… But then I don’t regard books that are old as out of date or boring.
You have made it clear you generalise and make unsound assumptions about people you know nothing about. you act like a spoiled child deprived of its sweets. Funny that I was thinking you are an old bigot that thinks everyone has to be grateful to you for what you did in the war, should treat you like royalty and should give you infinate amount of money, bus passes and you get to push to the fronnt of a bus ques because you think everyone behind you owes you their life. Then so you can complain about how little you get. Pensioners have done their bit and should enjoy their retirement but we don’t owe you a thing. Your war was with hitler, not with us! (Grin) Yep I really hit a nerve,
Interesting you think you win a point if you hit a nerve. Your blind ignorance hits a few nerves. You are the one who brought up the war, I didnt,
repeating incorrect information doesn’t make it truer. You are the one whose family fought in that war.. I don’t have a bus pass, I cant get onto buses, or walk down them to get a seat,
I’m sad for you but is this relelvent? I am about as down to earth practical as its possible to be, and yes I think I am special, in fact I am unique… but then so is everyone else.
Your life is unique, you aren’t. Ive seen so many like you. Again your looking in that mirror and seeing yourself, a selfish, egotistical person,
No That’s what’s in your mirror. I’m not slefish, I’m not egotistical I live one day to the next. who needs everyone to pander to her needs,
No I don’t. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -who cry’s crocodile tears over dead children’s graves, instead of putting a
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Shez I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do. Pleading pretend dyslexia didn’t get you very far on URP, did it? Hint – it won’t get you very far here, either.
I agree. I think Shez isn’t dyslexic, but instead a moron.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… I live on a pension, I am disabled, I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something. Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/ For twits who claim to be so enlightened. I have one word, bullshit. You are right, Shez, about the need to travel in the Third World. But then again, he would not survive. For the like of these condemn the UK or the US for not being "enlightened", I have a curse. May you live without, and learn.
Actually, you’re quite ignorant, as is Shez. It is right to complain about the system. It’s not about comparing it to third world countries, and thinking it’s better in the first world, but instead of looking at the first world and realizing that it could be better still.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes writes I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do. Your dead right I do, I find people like you who pull others on spelling usually have little else to do, or very little intelligence to do it with. I didn’t pull you on your spelling, I pulled you or the way you used obviously to summaries something you could know nothing about. You might have got that but for the apparent chip on your shoulder. Incidentally, you shouldn’t remark on a person’s intelligence particularly when you don’t know the person’s intelligence and even if you do know the person’s then you should know better than to remark on it because that would make you as bad as those that comment on your spelling. People with lower IQs than you have feelings too. Do you normally babble on like this,
Questions end with a question mark as you well know and your response is a poor defense at best. You can certainly make a good guess at someone’s intelligence on the newsgroups, not by their spelling but by their knowledge.
No intelleigence has nothing to do with knowledge. Your a dyslexic, you should have been told that. Yours appears to be minimal. If your upset by people knowing you have a low IQ, I would suggest you not post on a newsgroup like this one.
Oh so you see yourself qualified to remark on my IQ? I thought you knew better, what with you being dyslexic etc. I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I. Which… I take it your over 65. No I am disabled, not on a pension. Why didnt you say that in the first place…
I did! does that make a difference? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? (Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular. RMAOL. You are the poor victim and yet you are as big a biggot as anyone else. "(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular" That iis so rich. LOL I don’t usually have to spell things out, but as you have a problem understanding things I did.
I don’t remark on spelling. People say what they mean, that’s all if they spell it bad then so what? if we can” decipher it then why try? BTW I know what you have been saying and it’s still bull! I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem You think children are a problem? Again, what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? You obviously never had children, children are always a problem.
Tact was never your strong point was it? I don’t know you but I bet you would be the first to tell a cancer patient that she is dead. The point I was making was that I live on a limited income, and I am disabled both of which put me at the bottom of the health and the wealth index in this country I don’t have a lot of money, and I have physical problems, yet I have enough to manage on, and my health is well looked after. Their are very few countries in the world where I would get the help and receive the support that I do in this country.
I don’t have a lot either save for a array of family, friends and people with full compassion. I can’t work, my partner is my career. We have little money between us but we make do. I get your point because I have an idea what you are feeling but again what has this to do with the individual perspective? You are ashamed of your chilldren? I would never be ashamed of mine if ever I could get them! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. What have you missed, its a free country, Yes including free speech and the right to your own point of view. a democracy, you don’t have to pay for medical expenses, and if your disabled you know how help you can get. Including help like mobility, adapt ions to your home so you live at home no matter how disabled you are, That you can see a specialist that you don’t need to pay prescription charges if your over 60, or on a fixed income. Or a child. I know about the help ‘I’ can get and I’m glad it’s free or my medical bill would be huge. But you still complain, the original moaning Minnie… if you had to pay for your medical costs, you would probably be dead by now, I certainly would.. Or you would be on the streets begging, and that happens in a lot of countries.
I don’t know of you disability nor shall I ask you but withoout NHS I wold be a corpse and my partner would be alone. You wouldn’t beleive how much that hurts! Do you imagine that sort of help is available all over the world, its not I assure you. And a lot that is not available in America, ask some Americans about prescription charges, about medical bills, and social security.. You might be suprised. They have insurance, its all like private medical care over their I’m told. Don’t be stupid, insurance and private medical care is for those who can afford it,
Explain what is stupid about what I said! and if you work in a job that doesn’t pay enough you cant afford it, If you are disabled you couldn’t afford it either. You wouldn’t even be able to afford the prescription charges.. Which are among the highest in the world. Something that is causing a lot of bitterness and strife in America at the moment is the cost of prescription charges for senior citizens, Bush has brought in a new law which is supposed to help senior citizens and reduce there prescription costs, in fact it lines the pockets of the drug company’s, and its cheaper to get your prescription on line from another country. And have it posted to you. It would save about 60% of the cost to buy outside America. Don’t you watch the news, or keep up with current events. !
Yes I do but have you been there? I ask because you don’t read the news ecause you are dyslexic and are prone to misintepretation! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener. It will certainly be an eye opener for the native Americans another tourist wanting to be play at being at traditional American spirituality.. There you go. You tell me to travel a bit and when I tell you I am going to you shoot me down. Make up your mind please. Their are enough people on this group who are Native American and who resent those like yourself who want to play at being part of their spirituality. Their comments over the last weeks on those who play spiritual tourist have been sharp and obvious.
So explain why one minute you want me to travel and when I tell you my plan’s you do shoot me down! I don’t suppose that the tribes will be any to pleased to be excluded from the civilised culture either, They had quite a good culture long before America was colonized. Actually they are more included than you believe. in many cases it’s their choice to stay farther away from ‘civilization’s as possible. It depends on which side of the coin your on, Not everyone thinks that our modern culture is all that civilised…
No one said ‘everyone’ it would help you if you don’t keep generalising! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you don’t mind sharing then where have you travelled? America, Egypt, Singapore, Hongkong, Denmark, Germany, Syria, the middle east.. India… quite a few places, and many of them third world, many of them are still third world.. Well they say travel broadens the mind but after what you have said, I’m beginning to wonder. Oh I forgot France, Belgium Holland, and Spain, but that’s just Europe. Travel douse broaden the mind, you also learn that everyone has the same needs and desires for themselves and their family’s. Security, What we have for many people around the world is something they just dream about, a home, money, and access to
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writes Well of course they would. It sickens me that in that country people could be left to die on a trolley… Oop’s!
That never happens in America of course… I have a bridge I want to sell you… Snip… My partner reads like a seven year old. She can;t write legibally because she suiffers dyspraxia too,. She often gets flustered when trying to talk to people because she often fails to find the rights words, or more a case of stringing them together. She stutters and stammers at people because of it and lack of confidence then they call her stupid! She isn’t stupid!
So she doesn’t have any confidence in herself, and thinks herself lucky to have anyone care about her or want her. Instead of giving her the confidence to go out and make the most of her life, it sounds like your taking advantage of her lack of confidence to keep her. Great way to get a free slave . Snip Try being born with a bad heart, asthma and bronchitis. Try having your first heart attack at 34, waking up in intensive care with your partner crying on the bed sheets and you being too weak to even stroke her hair for a little comfort. Try spending three weeks in a wheel chair before I could get the strength to even risk walking. Try being unable to ever have kids because the strain of pregnancy will kill you. Try wondering if you’ll wake up the following day. Is that real enough for you?
You are sorry for yourself aren’t you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If your lesbian, it doesn’t stop your partner from having children… so what are you complaining about. You could have your partners children and help bring them up. Or is that to much like reality. You really haven’t a clue have you? How am I supposed to impregnate her you tactless tosser? When your young death is only round the corner. Do you ever visit the graveyard and see the children;s graves some less than a day old. I have a bad heart, it may stop and i’m dead, no warning, nothing and I’m gone. things like childrens graves and my health teach me and my beloved not to take things for granted.
I don’t visit graves, I will be in one soon enough, the people I loved are not in those graves the only thing their is a shell, I find those who sit and cry over baby’s graves to be very shallow people. Tears are for those who are alive and hurting. Not for the dead who don’t care and don’t know. I am not frightend of death, I have known him for a long time, But I am frightend of not living, Funny I saw that quote on a movie, I forgot which one it is.
Good quotes don’t always come from movies. I’m frightened of death because I fear for those I leave behind.
Why..?… Do you imagine that they couldn’t cope without you, that your so important in their lives that they could never go on and live and laugh again. You don’t know what I have done! If you had done anything you would be rushing to tell me. No I wouldn’t!
Your an open book. You have done nothing. snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where did I say anything that would make me a bigot, or a fascist. Question mark Ok ‘Bigot’, you use terms like, "people like you" which is a generalisation the you pick on intellect like it;s not ok to pick on a dyslexic because she has a brain and feelings but it’s ok to pick on a person of low intelligencve because from your apparent point of view they don’t ‘Facist’ yoou object to people having a point of view that differs to yours, so you don’t like free speech so you are a fascist and you beleive that people you regard aas being of lower intellegence, fully abled or have never travelled are an inferior species to you. Fascist and practically a Nazi. Did you fight them? If you did then you are a hypocrite too.
(chuckle ) I knew you could do it, NAZI. You just lost the argument, anyone who is reduced down to calling someone else a nazi has lost snip That’s you. This country practices freedom of speach and that you can’t dleal with? did you ever fight for that? some of my family did!
Keep in mind you brought up the subject of the war, to boast about some of your family fighting in it. Yes I fought for that, So then you are a hypocrite because you fought for somethig you don’t beleive in! and my uncle died for that, and some of my friends, I lost two great uncles, a great antie and a grandfather.
None of which you can remember, I on the other hand lost people I knew and loved. I lived through the war, and the bombs, you only talk about it, I did it. So are you expecting me to apologise because I was born almost 30 years too late?
You brought up the subject of the war remember, not me Freedom of speech means we can both say what we think, yes you and me BOTH!
Am I stopping you, ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Your idea of freedom of speech is you saying what you think and everyone else agreeing with you. No that’s yours. Mine is about being free to agree, disagree or abstaining. Freedom of speech means we both have the right to say what we think, not just you. Not hust you either. As I recall it’s you who’s been trying to tell me what tnot to say. I don’t think America will like you very much… Moaning Minis are no more popular their than they are here. they do like freedom of speech but are sensitive to the concept of other people. Too much for you apparently. You really don’t have much idea do you.. More than you so it seems. . Don’t invite me to your next book burning will you? Fascist! Childish, infantile, spoilt, and selfish, No but you deserved that! you have wasted your life, and used your illness to hide behind. Snip I would never burn books, I am a dyslexic remember for us communication is far to important to destroy it, Books aren’t everything you know. Keep them but don’t rely on them, give a breath and they are out of date.
Books are constant repository’s of knowledge and information, even if the information is out of date its still of interest because it shows how people thought, and how they reacted to their circumstances. I think any book burning would be done by you, not me. You post on the newsgroups you take your chances, I suggest you do some reading before you post again, about ten years worth…. Why? you don’t
(Grin) try reading the posts again, I have made it clear that I love books and reading, and why… But then I don’t regard books that are old as out of date or boring. you act like a spoiled child deprived of its sweets. Funny that I was thinking you are an old bigot that thinks everyone has to be grateful to you for what you did in the war, should treat you like royalty and should give you infinate amount of money, bus passes and you get to push to the fronnt of a bus ques because you think everyone behind you owes you their life. Then so you can complain about how little you get. Pensioners have done their bit and should enjoy their retirement but we don’t owe you a thing. Your war was with hitler, not with us!
(Grin) Yep I really hit a nerve, You are the one who brought up the war, I didnt, You are the one whose family fought in that war.. I don’t have a bus pass, I cant get onto buses, or walk down them to get a seat, I am about as down to earth practical as its possible to be, and yes I think I am special, in fact I am unique… but then so is everyone else. Again your looking in that mirror and seeing yourself, a selfish, egotistical person, who needs everyone to pander to her needs, who cry’s crocodile tears over dead children’s graves, instead of putting a little hard work into helping children who are alive and need some of that sympathy. I cant be hurt by your jibes because they don’t apply to me. However they do apply to you. Perhaps in future you will give your partner some of the confidence and care she needs, instead of grabbing all the attention for yourself, If miracles happen you might even stop moaning long enough to enjoy the world just as it is. — S
– Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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writes You don’t think, you react,
Don’t tell me what I do or i’ll do the same for you. You react withour even reading the post you are responding too and once again, what has any of this to do with personal points of view? Now answer the question please! You think I will feel sorry for you because tomorrow you may die,…
No I don’t because i don’t think you have it in you. You are soo tied up with yourself you have no room for anyone else. A lesson for you. People matter particularly those who llove you and who you love! When you get to my age, tomorrow you may die is part of your life. Having another day means you make the most of it. Not moan and complain about it.
Tommorw I may die is part of everyones life but when you have a dicky ticker and you know from your doctors that every dawn is a new one borrowed then you see things a little bit differently from others and you shouldn’t feel bad for doing so. I don’t need people to feel sorry for me, I don’t have time for that, I have things I want to do,
Of course not, you have enough self pity for everyone! shouldn’t remark on a person’s intelligence particularly when you don’t know the person’s intelligence and even if you do know the person’s then you should know better than to remark on it because that would make you as bad as those that comment on your spelling. People with lower IQs than you have feelings too. Do you normally babble on like this, Questions end with a question mark as you well know and your response is a poor defense at best. Is it, I see it touched a nerve
I see I did. So what?. You can certainly make a good guess at someone’s intelligence on the newsgroups, not by their spelling but by their knowledge. No intelleigence has nothing to do with knowledge. Your a dyslexic, you should have been told that. Why should I have been told that, ?
You would have been told that beause being a dyslexic your schoolteachers and people in general who weren’t made you feel stupid because as you know, one of the lesser symptoms of dyslexia is a bad short term memory. That doesn’t mean you aren’t intellegent Rather as a rule they are but you won’t let yours kick in because you let your intolerences get in the way! Dyslexics think laterally, Something you obviously have never done.
‘Never’ Another generalisation? Do you ever do anything else? You can be a genius, but if your raised by idiots, you can only learn what they teach you… knowledge is part of intelligence…
Knowledge is the product of intelligence. I see knowledge as a building and intelligence as bricks and mortar. It’s not as simple as that but you know what I mean, I hope. Yours appears to be minimal. If your upset by people knowing you have a low IQ, I would suggest you not post on a newsgroup like this one. Oh so you see yourself qualified to remark on my IQ? I thought you knew better, what with you being dyslexic etc. (Chuckle) its no use trying to upset me by telling me I am dyslexic,
You really haven’t got a clue have you? I already know that, and it doesn’t bother me.
Yes it does, You have a huge chip on your sholder because of it. IYR you brought it up! Perhaps it had not dawned on you that I don’t make it secret of it, because am not ashamed of it, You act like a child in a school yard, pointing at yelling.. Ooh look at her she’s dyslexic.
Aw bless. I’m never going to do that because my partner is dyslexic! Suprise suprise, your not the only one or are you the only biggot! . You tell me not to talk about other peoples intelligence because it might be cruel, and yet you constantly refer to my dyslexia… Hypocrite
as you pretendf to know, dyslexia has nothing to dio with intellegence and as you are a dyslexic then you know what its like tobe persecuted and feeling stupid when you aren’t. Hypocrite No sorry you are proof that dyslexics can be stupid. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I. Which… I take it your over 65. No I am disabled, not on a pension. Why didnt you say that in the first place… I did! does that make a difference? I said I was on a pension and disabled, You said you were to… it would be normal to assume your over 65. If your on a pension.
No you said, "I live on a pension, I am disabled" I said, So am i which only fits the disabeld part because, "I live on a pension" "So am I" Doesn’t fit where "I’m disabled" "So am I" Does. You see it doesn’t work the first way. Dyslexics have an excellent command of the english language as a rule even if their expression is poor and you being dyslexic should have got the flow of this basic concept of logical flow! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? (Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular. RMAOL. You are the poor victim and yet you are as big a biggot as anyone else. "(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular" That iis so rich. LOL I don’t usually have to spell things out, but as you have a problem understanding things I did. I don’t remark on spelling. People say what they mean, that’s all if they spell it bad then so what? if we can” decipher it then why try? Dyslexia rules ko….
Old joke but I’m glad you can laugh at it. You should laugh at a few more things IYAM. BTW I know what you have been saying and it’s still bull! Is it, then why are you so angry.
Because you are judging someone you don’t know anything about. Because you think yourself so enlightened and yet show you are no more so than anyone else. So why are you so angry? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem You think children are a problem? Again, what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? You obviously never had children, children are always a problem. Tact was never your strong point was it? I don’t know you but I bet you would be the first to tell a cancer patient that she is dead. I wouldn’t need to, corpses cant hear, But if you mean I call a spade a spade, yes I do,
No, I call a spade a spade, you call a spade a f****** grave digger. BTW I never said the cancer patient has passed on! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The point I was making was that I live on a limited income, and I am disabled both of which put me at the bottom of the health and the wealth index in this country I don’t have a lot of money, and I have physical problems, yet I have enough to manage on, and my health is well looked after. Their are very few countries in the world where I would get the help and receive the support that I do in this country. I don’t have a lot either save for a array of family, friends and people with full compassion. I can’t work, my partner is my career. We have little money between us but we make do. I get your point because I have an idea what you are feeling but again what has this to do with the individual perspective? Compassion, Why would I need compassion, ?
That is my perspective of you entirely. I bet ‘compassion’ isn’t even in your dictionary ? I have friends and I have family and I enjoy their company without needing them to feel sorry for me. They know I have problems but I don’t need people to constantly make allowances for me, because I am disabled,
That’s why you need compassion. Get it yet? You are ashamed of your chilldren? I would never be ashamed of mine if ever I could get them! (Grin) children are trouble and strife, they cost a fortune, they are constantly on your mind and constantly in your thoughts. It doesn’t stop you loving them, or being proud of them, Every parent knows that kids are trouble, its part of the package, you accept all of it not just the good bits. Children are part of your life from the moment they are born to the moment you die, You never stop being a parent, even when they are parents, and grandparents themselves.
That must be the first thing you said that I agree with. Though if I could have children I would probably spoil them rotten and no lectures about "you shouldn’t do that" please. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. What have you missed, its a free country, Yes including free speech and the right to your own point of view. So is anyone stopping you speaking… am I putting a gag over your mouth,
You are trying. If not this thread wouldn’t be here! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -No I am not I am challenging your ideas not stopping you
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writes You don’t think, you react, You think I will feel sorry for you because tomorrow you may die,… When you get to my age, tomorrow you may die is part of your life. Having another day means you make the most of it. Not moan and complain about it. I don’t need people to feel sorry for me, I don’t have time for that, I have things I want to do, shouldn’t remark on a person’s intelligence particularly when you don’t know the person’s intelligence and even if you do know the person’s then you should know better than to remark on it because that would make you as bad as those that comment on your spelling. People with lower IQs than you have feelings too. Do you normally babble on like this, Questions end with a question mark as you well know and your response is a poor defense at best.
Is it, I see it touched a nerve. You can certainly make a good guess at someone’s intelligence on the newsgroups, not by their spelling but by their knowledge. No intelleigence has nothing to do with knowledge. Your a dyslexic, you should have been told that.
Why should I have been told that, ? Dyslexics think laterally, Something you obviously have never done. You can be a genius, but if your raised by idiots, you can only learn what they teach you… knowledge is part of intelligence… Yours appears to be minimal. If your upset by people knowing you have a low IQ, I would suggest you not post on a newsgroup like this one. Oh so you see yourself qualified to remark on my IQ? I thought you knew better, what with you being dyslexic etc.
(Chuckle) its no use trying to upset me by telling me I am dyslexic, I already know that, and it doesn’t bother me. Perhaps it had not dawned on you that I don’t make it secret of it, because am not ashamed of it, You act like a child in a school yard, pointing at yelling.. Ooh look at her she’s dyslexic.. You tell me not to talk about other peoples intelligence because it might be cruel, and yet you constantly refer to my dyslexia… Hypocrite – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I. Which… I take it your over 65. No I am disabled, not on a pension. Why didnt you say that in the first place… I did! does that make a difference?
I said I was on a pension and disabled, You said you were to… it would be normal to assume your over 65. If your on a pension. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? (Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular. RMAOL. You are the poor victim and yet you are as big a biggot as anyone else. "(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular" That iis so rich. LOL I don’t usually have to spell things out, but as you have a problem understanding things I did. I don’t remark on spelling. People say what they mean, that’s all if they spell it bad then so what? if we can” decipher it then why try?
Dyslexia rules ko…. BTW I know what you have been saying and it’s still bull!
Is it, then why are you so angry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem You think children are a problem? Again, what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? You obviously never had children, children are always a problem. Tact was never your strong point was it? I don’t know you but I bet you would be the first to tell a cancer patient that she is dead.
I wouldn’t need to, corpses cant hear, But if you mean I call a spade a spade, yes I do, The point I was making was that I live on a limited income, and I am disabled both of which put me at the bottom of the health and the wealth index in this country I don’t have a lot of money, and I have physical problems, yet I have enough to manage on, and my health is well looked after. Their are very few countries in the world where I would get the help and receive the support that I do in this country. I don’t have a lot either save for a array of family, friends and people with full compassion. I can’t work, my partner is my career. We have little money between us but we make do. I get your point because I have an idea what you are feeling but again what has this to do with the individual perspective?
Compassion, Why would I need compassion, ? I have friends and I have family and I enjoy their company without needing them to feel sorry for me. They know I have problems but I don’t need people to constantly make allowances for me, because I am disabled, You are ashamed of your chilldren? I would never be ashamed of mine if ever I could get them!
(Grin) children are trouble and strife, they cost a fortune, they are constantly on your mind and constantly in your thoughts. It doesn’t stop you loving them, or being proud of them, Every parent knows that kids are trouble, its part of the package, you accept all of it not just the good bits. Children are part of your life from the moment they are born to the moment you die, You never stop being a parent, even when they are parents, and grandparents themselves. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. What have you missed, its a free country, Yes including free speech and the right to your own point of view.
So is anyone stopping you speaking… am I putting a gag over your mouth, No I am not I am challenging your ideas not stopping you having them, that is called debate. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – a democracy, you don’t have to pay for medical expenses, and if your disabled you know how help you can get. Including help like mobility, adapt ions to your home so you live at home no matter how disabled you are, That you can see a specialist that you don’t need to pay prescription charges if your over 60, or on a fixed income. Or a child. I know about the help ‘I’ can get and I’m glad it’s free or my medical bill would be huge. But you still complain, the original moaning Minnie… if you had to pay for your medical costs, you would probably be dead by now, I certainly would.. Or you would be on the streets begging, and that happens in a lot of countries. I don’t know of you disability nor shall I ask you but withoout NHS I wold be a corpse and my partner would be alone. You wouldn’t beleive how much that hurts! Do you imagine that sort of help is available all over the world, its not I assure you. And a lot that is not available in America, ask some Americans about prescription charges, about medical bills, and social security.. You might be suprised. They have insurance, its all like private medical care over their I’m told. Don’t be stupid, insurance and private medical care is for those who can afford it, Explain what is stupid about what I said!
Its the unknowing belief that because its American it must be better, I know a lot of Americans these days who would be very pleased to have our National health service, Private medical care is very expensive, so is the insurance. Neither you or I would be able to afford it, and if we were both in America we might get Medicare, but it would be a second rate service. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -and if you work in a job that doesn’t pay enough you cant afford it, If you are disabled you couldn’t afford it either. You wouldn’t even be able to afford the prescription charges.. Which are among the highest in the world. Something that is causing a lot of bitterness and strife in America at the moment is the cost of prescription charges for senior citizens, Bush has brought in a new law which is supposed to help senior citizens and reduce there prescription costs, in fact it lines the pockets of the drug company’s, and its cheaper to get your prescription on line from another country. And have it posted to you. It would save about 60% of the cost to buy outside America. Don’t you watch the news, or keep up with current events. ! Yes I do but have you been there? I ask because you don’t read the news ecause you are dyslexic and are prone to misintepretation!
I am dyslexic not blind… and again your complaining about me talking about stupid people and you constantly refer to dyslexics as if they couldn’t read, write or think. Dyslexia can be mild to sever.. And you can learn to read and write.. Its just a lot more difficult for dyslexics, they more than most value communication. Both oral, written and read. Dyslexics are among the best communicators in any country, they have had to learn to be. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suggest you travel a bit before you
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do. Your dead right I do, I find people like you who pull others on spelling usually have little else to do, or very little intelligence to do it with. I didn’t pull you on your spelling, I pulled you or the way you used obviously to summaries something you could know nothing about. You might have got that but for the apparent chip on your shoulder. Incidentally, you shouldn’t remark on a person’s intelligence particularly when you don’t know the person’s intelligence and even if you do know the person’s then you should know better than to remark on it because that would make you as bad as those that comment on your spelling. People with lower IQs than you have feelings too. I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I. Which… I take it your over 65. No I am disabled, not on a pension. I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? (Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular. RMAOL. You are the poor victim and yet you are as big a biggot as anyone else. "(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular" That iis so rich. LOL I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem You think children are a problem? Again, what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. What have you missed, its a free country, Yes including free speech and the right to your own point of view. a democracy, you don’t have to pay for medical expenses, and if your disabled you know how help you can get. Including help like mobility, adapt ions to your home so you live at home no matter how disabled you are, That you can see a specialist that you don’t need to pay prescription charges if your over 60, or on a fixed income. Or a child. I know about the help ‘I’ can get and I’m glad it’s free or my medical bill would be huge. Do you imagine that sort of help is available all over the world, its not I assure you. And a lot that is not available in America, ask some Americans about prescription charges, about medical bills, and social security.. You might be suprised. They have insurance, its all like private medical care over their I’m told. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener. It will certainly be an eye opener for the native Americans another tourist wanting to be play at being at traditional American spirituality.. There you go. You tell me to travel a bit and when I tell you I am going to you shoot me down. Make up your mind please. I don’t suppose that the tribes will be any to pleased to be excluded from the civilised culture either, They had quite a good culture long before America was colonized. Actually they are more included than you believe. in many cases it’s their choice to stay farther away from ‘civilization’s as possible. If you don’t mind sharing then where have you travelled? America, Egypt, Singapore, Hongkong, Denmark, Germany, Syria, the middle east.. India… quite a few places, and many of them third world, many of them are still third world.. Well they say travel broadens the mind but after what you have said, I’m beginning to wonder. You don’t have any idea what the real world is like do you… you have this image of it all being better than where you are. Your probably right.. With your attitude no where would be good enough. I’ve heard that recorded message before from other people who don’t know what they are talking about. Are you saying that if you live in the UK you’re not in a real world? Try being born with a bad heart, asthma and bronchitis. Try having your first heart attack at 34, waking up in intensive care with your partner crying on the bed sheets and you being too weak to even stroke her hair for a little comfort. Try spending three weeks in a wheel chair before I could get the strength to even risk walking. Try being unable to ever have kids because the strain of pregnancy will kill you. Try wondering if you’ll wake up the following day. Is that real enough for you?
I think the strain of pregnancy would indeed kill you, Darren. It’s not really a suitable physical condition for men. Probably less dangerous than the strain of trying to remember which persona you’re using on different ngs, though… Jani – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My world is far from ideal but I make the best of what I have and I suggest you do the same. If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something. You don’t see what’s around me, you only see what’s around you. (Grin ) I fought for some of the things you enjoy now, and take for granted, for women to have equal rights, for women to have the vote, for equal wages, pensions and a lot of other things. I didnt just sit back and moan, I got out their and did. Which is why people like you annoy me so much, You moan and never stop moaning and you never, ever do anything about it. You want the country to carry you, and you never put any effort into making sure that everyone has the right to a good education, health care, equal rights, the vote, You’re running out of tape. Turn it to the other side. Why is it everytime Someone makes that speech they make it to someone they don’t know? Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing. Some people are in better positions to change it than others and not all changes are for the better. Was you lecture above from a standardised text or were you using your own perspective? Everyone is in a position to change things, those who make excuses for their own laziness I don’t have a lot of time for. Nonsense! What about the third world with their pestilence, famine, disease and drought? Is that their fault? Are you suggesting they suffer like that because they are too lazy to fix it? Oh yes, I see it now. According to you all they need do is get off their arses and they can bring civilization to themselves in no time at all. Your ignorance is profound. I don’t have a lot of time for moaning Minnies either, and you strike as the a full scale moaning Minnie, Its all everyone else’s fault. Never yours. Have a nice time in America, I think you should move their, we could with a few less hypocrites Blah blah blah. I think I’ll stick around, I’m kind of dependent on the free health service even if it means I have to put up with bigots, fascists like you. Hypocrite! — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/ — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do. Your dead right I do, I find people like you who pull others on spelling usually have little else to do, or very little intelligence to do it with. I didn’t pull you on your spelling, I pulled you or the way you used obviously to summaries something you could know nothing about. You might have got that but for the apparent chip on your shoulder. Incidentally, you shouldn’t remark on a person’s intelligence particularly when you don’t know the person’s intelligence and even if you do know the person’s then you should know better than to remark on it because that would make you as bad as those that comment on your spelling. People with lower IQs than you have feelings too.
Do you normally babble on like this, You can certainly make a good guess at someone’s intelligence on the newsgroups, not by their spelling but by their knowledge. Yours appears to be minimal. If your upset by people knowing you have a low IQ, I would suggest you not post on a newsgroup like this one. I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I. Which… I take it your over 65. No I am disabled, not on a pension.
Why didnt you say that in the first place… I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? (Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular. RMAOL. You are the poor victim and yet you are as big a biggot as anyone else. "(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular" That iis so rich. LOL
I don’t usually have to spell things out, but as you have a problem understanding things I did. I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem You think children are a problem? Again, what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life?
You obviously never had children, children are always a problem. The point I was making was that I live on a limited income, and I am disabled both of which put me at the bottom of the health and the wealth index in this country I don’t have a lot of money, and I have physical problems, yet I have enough to manage on, and my health is well looked after. Their are very few countries in the world where I would get the help and receive the support that I do in this country. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. What have you missed, its a free country, Yes including free speech and the right to your own point of view. a democracy, you don’t have to pay for medical expenses, and if your disabled you know how help you can get. Including help like mobility, adapt ions to your home so you live at home no matter how disabled you are, That you can see a specialist that you don’t need to pay prescription charges if your over 60, or on a fixed income. Or a child. I know about the help ‘I’ can get and I’m glad it’s free or my medical bill would be huge.
But you still complain, the original moaning Minnie… if you had to pay for your medical costs, you would probably be dead by now, I certainly would.. Or you would be on the streets begging, and that happens in a lot of countries. Do you imagine that sort of help is available all over the world, its not I assure you. And a lot that is not available in America, ask some Americans about prescription charges, about medical bills, and social security.. You might be suprised. They have insurance, its all like private medical care over their I’m told.
Don’t be stupid, insurance and private medical care is for those who can afford it, and if you work in a job that doesn’t pay enough you cant afford it, If you are disabled you couldn’t afford it either. You wouldn’t even be able to afford the prescription charges.. Which are among the highest in the world. Something that is causing a lot of bitterness and strife in America at the moment is the cost of prescription charges for senior citizens, Bush has brought in a new law which is supposed to help senior citizens and reduce there prescription costs, in fact it lines the pockets of the drug company’s, and its cheaper to get your prescription on line from another country. And have it posted to you. It would save about 60% of the cost to buy outside America. Don’t you watch the news, or keep up with current events. ! I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener. It will certainly be an eye opener for the native Americans another tourist wanting to be play at being at traditional American spirituality.. There you go. You tell me to travel a bit and when I tell you I am going to you shoot me down. Make up your mind please.
Their are enough people on this group who are Native American and who resent those like yourself who want to play at being part of their spirituality. Their comments over the last weeks on those who play spiritual tourist have been sharp and obvious. I don’t suppose that the tribes will be any to pleased to be excluded from the civilised culture either, They had quite a good culture long before America was colonized. Actually they are more included than you believe. in many cases it’s their choice to stay farther away from ‘civilization’s as possible.
It depends on which side of the coin your on, Not everyone thinks that our modern culture is all that civilised… If you don’t mind sharing then where have you travelled? America, Egypt, Singapore, Hongkong, Denmark, Germany, Syria, the middle east.. India… quite a few places, and many of them third world, many of them are still third world.. Well they say travel broadens the mind but after what you have said, I’m beginning to wonder.
Oh I forgot France, Belgium Holland, and Spain, but that’s just Europe. Travel douse broaden the mind, you also learn that everyone has the same needs and desires for themselves and their family’s. Security, What we have for many people around the world is something they just dream about, a home, money, and access to education, health and medical care. Seeing people living on the streets on pennies a day, men women and children, is a culture shock, those who cant take it never return to third world countries, Those who can, make an effort to change what they can. a lot of the countries who are poor, are poor because they are paying of huge loans to the world bank… the people of those countries never see any of that money it goes in graft and payments to those in power. The country then has massive debt and spends years simply paying off the interest, without ever reducing the loan. I have in my time written and marched to bring peoples attention to the world bank, to stop the loans given to governments who obviously cant pay them back, and are using the money themselves for luxury’s. And to allow those country’s in debt to pay of the capital without paying interest. I still when I can try to help bring the worlds bank involvement in graft and payments to the powerful is brought to light. You don’t have any idea what the real world is like do you… you have this image of it all being better than where you are. Your probably right.. With your attitude no where would be good enough. I’ve heard that recorded message before from other people who don’t know what they are talking about.
Did it ever dawn on you that perhaps they were right, that you don’t know what the rest of the world is like and that you have no real idea of how lucky we are in this country to live in a place that provides for those who are old, ill, or disabled… Are you saying that if you live in the UK you’re not in a real world?
Yes I am, because outside the UK, most countries do not provide the social services that the UK provide, Why do you suppose that those who are leaving their countries as economic migrants make a bee line for the UK. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Try being born with a bad heart, asthma and bronchitis. Try having your first heart attack at 34, waking up in intensive care with your partner crying on the bed sheets and you being too weak to
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do. Your dead right I do, I find people like you who pull others on spelling usually have little else to do, or very little intelligence to do it with.
I didn’t pull you on your spelling, I pulled you or the way you used obviously to summaries something you could know nothing about. You might have got that but for the apparent chip on your shoulder. Incidentally, you shouldn’t remark on a person’s intelligence particularly when you don’t know the person’s intelligence and even if you do know the person’s then you should know better than to remark on it because that would make you as bad as those that comment on your spelling. People with lower IQs than you have feelings too. I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I. Which… I take it your over 65.
No I am disabled, not on a pension. I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? (Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular.
RMAOL. You are the poor victim and yet you are as big a biggot as anyone else. "(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular" That iis so rich. LOL I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem
You think children are a problem? Again, what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. What have you missed, its a free country,
Yes including free speech and the right to your own point of view. a democracy, you don’t have to pay for medical expenses, and if your disabled you know how help you can get. Including help like mobility, adapt ions to your home so you live at home no matter how disabled you are, That you can see a specialist that you don’t need to pay prescription charges if your over 60, or on a fixed income. Or a child.
I know about the help ‘I’ can get and I’m glad it’s free or my medical bill would be huge. Do you imagine that sort of help is available all over the world, its not I assure you. And a lot that is not available in America, ask some Americans about prescription charges, about medical bills, and social security.. You might be suprised.
They have insurance, its all like private medical care over their I’m told. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener. It will certainly be an eye opener for the native Americans another tourist wanting to be play at being at traditional American spirituality..
There you go. You tell me to travel a bit and when I tell you I am going to you shoot me down. Make up your mind please. I don’t suppose that the tribes will be any to pleased to be excluded from the civilised culture either, They had quite a good culture long before America was colonized.
Actually they are more included than you believe. in many cases it’s their choice to stay farther away from ‘civilization’s as possible. If you don’t mind sharing then where have you travelled? America, Egypt, Singapore, Hongkong, Denmark, Germany, Syria, the middle east.. India… quite a few places, and many of them third world, many of them are still third world..
Well they say travel broadens the mind but after what you have said, I’m beginning to wonder. You don’t have any idea what the real world is like do you… you have this image of it all being better than where you are. Your probably right.. With your attitude no where would be good enough.
I’ve heard that recorded message before from other people who don’t know what they are talking about. Are you saying that if you live in the UK you’re not in a real world? Try being born with a bad heart, asthma and bronchitis. Try having your first heart attack at 34, waking up in intensive care with your partner crying on the bed sheets and you being too weak to even stroke her hair for a little comfort. Try spending three weeks in a wheel chair before I could get the strength to even risk walking. Try being unable to ever have kids because the strain of pregnancy will kill you. Try wondering if you’ll wake up the following day. Is that real enough for you? My world is far from ideal but I make the best of what I have and I suggest you do the same. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something. You don’t see what’s around me, you only see what’s around you. (Grin ) I fought for some of the things you enjoy now, and take for granted, for women to have equal rights, for women to have the vote, for equal wages, pensions and a lot of other things. I didnt just sit back and moan, I got out their and did. Which is why people like you annoy me so much, You moan and never stop moaning and you never, ever do anything about it. You want the country to carry you, and you never put any effort into making sure that everyone has the right to a good education, health care, equal rights, the vote,
You’re running out of tape. Turn it to the other side. Why is it everytime Someone makes that speech they make it to someone they don’t know? Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing. Some people are in better positions to change it than others and not all changes are for the better. Was you lecture above from a standardised text or were you using your own perspective? Everyone is in a position to change things, those who make excuses for their own laziness I don’t have a lot of time for.
Nonsense! What about the third world with their pestilence, famine, disease and drought? Is that their fault? Are you suggesting they suffer like that because they are too lazy to fix it? Oh yes, I see it now. According to you all they need do is get off their arses and they can bring civilization to themselves in no time at all. Your ignorance is profound. I don’t have a lot of time for moaning Minnies either, and you strike as the a full scale moaning Minnie, Its all everyone else’s fault. Never yours. Have a nice time in America, I think you should move their, we could with a few less hypocrites
Blah blah blah. I think I’ll stick around, I’m kind of dependent on the free health service even if it means I have to put up with bigots, fascists like you. Hypocrite! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/ — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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. Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. Its worth far more than you can imagine. You have never had to live without it, and because of that, have no idea what a struggle it is to do without it. Indeed. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Why? Who really gives a shit about marriage in the general population? If you are so het up about issues like those, try wresting your government out of the ass of your national church. This is where your energy might be better spent. That’s true. Because with that comes multiple benefits. In some ways it’s remarkable in Canada, because our second largest religion is the United Church of Canada, who is so liberal that they are actually one of the main lobbiests in favour of homosexual marriage.
Hmph. Interesting. Just separate all marriage from religion and religious ideas and there won’t be a problem. In the US the biggest benefit from marriage is the tax law.. Other than that, all property and survivorship advantages can be covered under legal arrangements, BUT with marriage its free and automatic. There really isn’t anything about marriage that is to the advantage of a couple except the federal and state tax laws. And of course, since we don’t have national insurance, health insurance comapanies have to cover spouses, but not significant others or life partners. The problem in the US with legalizing gay marriage, is that under our laws, private business may not have to recognize it, even if the federal tax structure does. Its not a simple reversal of law. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . That’s a great idea. Its worth changing for a one term American President. I hope you’re right about that one term thing. You seem to have more faith in the American people than the polls about his approval would indicate.
Fuck the polls. Polls are made by calling people up and seeing if they will take the time to answer a bunch of questions. The economy is a disaster and that is how people are going to vote. Tons of people are out of work, they don’t appear on the unemployment figures because after benefits run out they are dropped from the statistics. I enjoy Bush’s campaigning in the rust belt, because they have been hit hard and blame him…rightly so. When you get right wing assholes like fotty nuking his posts where he supported bush….well, there you go. You can’t tell anything that is going on if you watch American TV. The news isn’t real, its censored and has become a cheering section for commercial interests….just like the papers. Real journalism is dead. People are pissed off. You have to watch the religious right though. They’d support the devil himself if he said he’d put prayer in school. They vote in a block and always turn out. You have to watch the upper middle class left too, because they are so pig ignorant, they waffle, split their vote, and flail on marginal issues. However, I think that there are enough people left holding the stinky bag they’ve had thrust upon them, who really are going to get off their ass and vote this time. IF Kerry chooses the right running mate, he can win. Pip
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Shez I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do.
Pleading pretend dyslexia didn’t get you very far on URP, did it? Hint – it won’t get you very far here, either. I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I.
Yeah, you’re a disabled hereditary-wiccan art-student lesbian who just happens to be a male dyslexic catholic wannabee geek. Daz, you’re a fuckwit. Live with it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener.
That’ll be most entertaining, when Pixie learns that the nice Lesbian she’s been chatting to for all this time is actually a bloke. Or, are you expecting to convince the American URP posters that you’re female? California, heh, you couldn’t have chosen better, if you wanted a welcome from those who already know what you are, Dazza. Nice one. Jani
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writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes writes You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating? You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe. — S I don’t find that race, creed, or colour, and even gender are that much of a problem in this country compared to many others. Perhaps you need to get outside of Britain to appreciate that fact Nor do we set fire to gays, or hunt them down as a sport with rifles, which happens in some other countries.. Yes we do get free national health service, and if you think that a paid for health service is better then try living in America.. This country is not perfect, never will be… but it has a lot going for it, in the fact that its a small country and when voters yell, the government has to take notice. Their are far worse places. You obviously never see the good in anything, only the bad, what a miserable life you must lead. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/ I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… No but I bet you do.
Your dead right I do, I find people like you who pull others on spelling usually have little else to do, or very little intelligence to do it with. I live on a pension, I am disabled, So am I.
Which… I take it your over 65. I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life?
(Sigh) are people just generally dense today, or is it you in particular. I am a pensioner disabled, I have raised children who now have there own children, I understand what its like to live on a fixed income, and having raised children I know How difficult and costly it can be, and how hard you fight for your family to give them the best you can. Obviously you never had that problem I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have.
What have you missed, its a free country, a democracy, you don’t have to pay for medical expenses, and if your disabled you know how help you can get. Including help like mobility, adapt ions to your home so you live at home no matter how disabled you are, That you can see a specialist that you don’t need to pay prescription charges if your over 60, or on a fixed income. Or a child. Do you imagine that sort of help is available all over the world, its not I assure you. And a lot that is not available in America, ask some Americans about prescription charges, about medical bills, and social security.. You might be suprised. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener.
It will certainly be an eye opener for the native Americans another tourist wanting to be play at being at traditional American spirituality.. I don’t suppose that the tribes will be any to pleased to be excluded from the civilised culture either, They had quite a good culture long before America was colonised. If you don’t mind sharing then where have you travelled?
America, Egypt, Singapore, Hongkong, Denmark, Germany, Syria, the middle east.. India… quite a few places, and many of them third world, many of them are still third world.. You don’t have any idea what the real world is like do you… you have this image of it all being better than where you are. Your probably right.. With your attitude no where would be good enough. If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something. You don’t see what’s around me, you only see what’s around you.
(Grin ) I fought for some of the things you enjoy now, and take for granted, for women to have equal rights, for women to have the vote, for equal wages, pensions and a lot of other things. I didnt just sit back and moan, I got out their and did. Which is why people like you annoy me so much, You moan and never stop moaning and you never, ever do anything about it. You want the country to carry you, and you never put any effort into making sure that everyone has the right to a good education, health care, equal rights, the vote, Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing. Some people are in better positions to change it than others and not all changes are for the better. Was you lecture above from a standardised text or were you using your own perspective?
Everyone is in a position to change things, those who make excuses for their own laziness I don’t have a lot of time for. I don’t have a lot of time for moaning Minnies either, and you strike as the a full scale moaning Minnie, Its all everyone else’s fault. Never yours. Have a nice time in America, I think you should move their, we could with a few less hypocrites — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
– Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. Its worth far more than you can imagine. You have never had to live without it, and because of that, have no idea what a struggle it is to do without it.
Have you done without it? Recently I mean. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Why? Who really gives a shit about marriage in the general population?
My partner and I do! If you are so het up about issues like those, try wresting your government out of the ass of your national church. This is where your energy might be better spent.
The government has nothing to do with my church. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . That’s a great idea. Its worth changing for a one term American President.
I was being sarcastic. Pip
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes writes You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating? You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe. — S I don’t find that race, creed, or colour, and even gender are that much of a problem in this country compared to many others. Perhaps you need to get outside of Britain to appreciate that fact Nor do we set fire to gays, or hunt them down as a sport with rifles, which happens in some other countries.. Yes we do get free national health service, and if you think that a paid for health service is better then try living in America.. This country is not perfect, never will be… but it has a lot going for it, in the fact that its a small country and when voters yell, the government has to take notice. Their are far worse places. You obviously never see the good in anything, only the bad, what a miserable life you must lead. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/ I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to…
No but I bet you do. I live on a pension, I am disabled,
So am I. I have grown up children, and grandchildren,
I can’t have kids or grandchildren.but what exactly has any of this to do with other people’s point of view of life? I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it.
I do appreciate what I have I also appreciate what I have not and never will have. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot.
All being well, my partner and I are going to America this summer. We are aiming to go lo CA and indulge into a mingle with bothe the ‘civilised’ culture and the ‘tribal’ That should be an eye opener. If you don’t mind sharing then where have you travelled? If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something.
You don’t see what’s around me, you only see what’s around you. Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing.
Some people are in better positions to change it than others and not all changes are for the better. Was you lecture above from a standardised text or were you using your own perspective? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… I live on a pension, I am disabled, I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something. Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
For twits who claim to be so enlightened. I have one word, bullshit. You are right, Shez, about the need to travel in the Third World. But then again, he would not survive. For the like of these condemn the UK or the US for not being "enlightened", I have a curse. May you live without, and learn. Harley — Boycott Starbucks http://www.haidabuckscafe.com/ Reply to vyl at pacbell dot net
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. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth.
Its worth far more than you can imagine. You have never had to live without it, and because of that, have no idea what a struggle it is to do without it. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making
progress. Why? Who really gives a shit about marriage in the general population? If you are so het up about issues like those, try wresting your government out of the ass of your national church. This is where your energy might be better spent. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" .
That’s a great idea. Its worth changing for a one term American President. Pip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hehe. — S — I live my life like I play games, I cheat. – Trolls are your enemies, wipe them out. http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/antitrollfaqhtm.htm –
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. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. Its worth far more than you can imagine. You have never had to live without it, and because of that, have no idea what a struggle it is to do without it.
Indeed. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Why? Who really gives a shit about marriage in the general population? If you are so het up about issues like those, try wresting your government out of the ass of your national church. This is where your energy might be better spent.
That’s true. Because with that comes multiple benefits. In some ways it’s remarkable in Canada, because our second largest religion is the United Church of Canada, who is so liberal that they are actually one of the main lobbiests in favour of homosexual marriage. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . That’s a great idea. Its worth changing for a one term American President.
I hope you’re right about that one term thing. You seem to have more faith in the American people than the polls about his approval would indicate.
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writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating? You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe. — S I don’t find that race, creed, or colour, and even gender are that much of a problem in this country compared to many others. Perhaps you need to get outside of Britain to appreciate that fact Nor do we set fire to gays, or hunt them down as a sport with rifles, which happens in some other countries.. Yes we do get free national health service, and if you think that a paid for health service is better then try living in America.. This country is not perfect, never will be… but it has a lot going for it, in the fact that its a small country and when voters yell, the government has to take notice. Their are far worse places. You obviously never see the good in anything, only the bad, what a miserable life you must lead. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/ I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc.
I am dyslexic, do you want to make an issue out of that to… I live on a pension, I am disabled, I have grown up children, and grandchildren, I remember this country before the health service, When getting a doctor was likely to bankrupt the family… When getting an education if you were not middle class was practically impossible beyond the reading writing and arithmetic stage, just the basics. Going to university was not just difficult it was almost impossible, unless you were lucky enough to get a scholarship, if you were a woman it was twice as difficult. You don’t appreciate what you have, because you have never been without it. I suggest you travel a bit before you make observations about this country, a bit of culture shock in a third world country tends to focus the mind a lot. If you stopped moaning long enough to take a good look around you, You might realise just how lucky you are, But then some people are never happy unless they are complaining about something. Its not perfect, but then those who moan about it are never prepared to make the changes, or do the dirty work of changing what needs changing. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe.
Hmmm…It just occurred to me that I haven’t noticed anyone refer to the "coalition of the willing" in Iraq as "The Bush League of Nations",. Missed opportunity there. Joe
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating? You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe. — S I don’t find that race, creed, or colour, and even gender are that much of a problem in this country compared to many others. Perhaps you need to get outside of Britain to appreciate that fact Nor do we set fire to gays, or hunt them down as a sport with rifles, which happens in some other countries.. Yes we do get free national health service, and if you think that a paid for health service is better then try living in America.. This country is not perfect, never will be… but it has a lot going for it, in the fact that its a small country and when voters yell, the government has to take notice. Their are far worse places. You obviously never see the good in anything, only the bad, what a miserable life you must lead. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
I love when people misuse the word, ‘obviously’ like that. It seems you haven’t been where I have. Fair do but you should respect the individual point of view on life etc. — S — I live my life like I play games, I cheat. – Trolls are your enemies, wipe them out. http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/antitrollfaqhtm.htm –
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writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating? You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe. — S
I don’t find that race, creed, or colour, and even gender are that much of a problem in this country compared to many others. Perhaps you need to get outside of Britain to appreciate that fact Nor do we set fire to gays, or hunt them down as a sport with rifles, which happens in some other countries.. Yes we do get free national health service, and if you think that a paid for health service is better then try living in America.. This country is not perfect, never will be… but it has a lot going for it, in the fact that its a small country and when voters yell, the government has to take notice. Their are far worse places. You obviously never see the good in anything, only the bad, what a miserable life you must lead. — Shez’s Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating? You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe.
Oh gosh. Some of that is real scary stuff. It’s amazing that you aren’t really familiar with the basic workings of a particular country unless you live there and whatnot. I mean, if I hadn’t seen people on URP talking about this, I would never have thought it to be like this at all.
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You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating?
You should try living here. The UK is a tissue of false promises, lies and victorian values. Ok we let our children go clubbing now but we still hate gays, women, Americans and coloureds. We still think childless sex is a sin and that the only opinion allowed is there’s. I name it narrow bandwidth. . Mind you we still get free tetanus, scrapes, diabetes and a free national health service for what it’s worth. though i think when they let gays get married and adopt children, then we will be making progress. Seriously though give it time and i think we will change our name from the united kingdom to the "union of Bush" . Hehe. — S — I live my life like I play games, I cheat. – Trolls are your enemies, wipe them out. http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/antitrollfaqhtm.htm –
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You don’t get tubal ligations and vasectomies for free? And you have to jump through hoops to undergo the process? And you call yourself a first world country? (Or 4 first world countries, anyway) You really do have a lot in common with the US. What’s this problem that people in the UK and the US have with childless sex? Is that why homosexuals have such issues, because they’re not procreating?
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